From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 22 15:13:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02622 for current-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02615 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21509; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:12:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: John-Mark Gurney cc: Jonathan Mini , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [MAILER-DAEMON: Returned mail: Service unavailable] In-Reply-To: <19970722144504.48420@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Tom scribbled this message on Jul 22: > > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Jonathan Mini wrote: > > > > > How annoying. Bruce Evan's site is over spam-rampant and hates us poor dynamic > > > IP folks. I'm about ready to ask my ISP for a DNS entry that points to nowhere, > > > just so that I can send people like this mail. > > > > Huh? It isn't over spam-rapant. "micron.efn.org" does not exist, so > > why should his system accept mail with a bogus sender address? If his > > system should need to bounce the message, it isn't going to be able to > > return the message either, because micron.efn.org does not exist. > > well.. i have the same problem... we fix the from in the actual header, > but there isn't anything we can really do with sendmail unless we really > want to become "spammers"... also, he gets a dynamic ip address from > efn.. meaning that he has to change his hostname, and then restart > sendmail for it to become valid... Yes, but the envelope sender is wrong. Mail servers are perfectly justified in refusing mail with an envelope sender containing a non existant domain. Also, if your envelope sender is wrong, you will lose mail. > > Since your address appears to be "j_mini@efn.org", and "efn.org" does > > exist, why don't you just use that? > > well... there is one problem... efn.org is over a 14.4k modem, to my > 28.8k modem, that happens to be dialed into efn's terminal server, but > goes over to a local university which we use for inet connectivity... > so connecting to that host would go over the above, then back from the > university to efn.org... plus, we run FreeBSD on our systems.. so it > is possible, but problematic... considering that he can also dial > directly into efn it would mean needing to have two completely differnt > configurations... Huh? What does this have to do with e-mail addresses? The connectivity is irrelevant. It also has nothing to do with dynamic addresses. Use "-f" flag to sendmail to force the proper envelope sender. > -- > John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 > Cu Networking > > Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD > Tom