From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Mar 30 5:58:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (wwweasel.geeksrus.net [64.8.210.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E4737B489; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alane@localhost) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2UDtRS13836; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:55:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alane) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:55:27 -0500 From: Alan Eldridge To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: Ade Lovett , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , FreeBSD Ports List , FreeBSD Port Mgr , eivind@FreeBSD.org, Anders Nor Berle , Will Andrews Subject: Re: ports/36433: new port: microsoft sscli Message-ID: <20020330135527.GA91948@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> References: <1017475582.27979.28.camel@notebook> <20020330082700.GA64622@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <1017484309.27979.30.camel@notebook> <20020330112715.GA96547@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <1017494052.262.52.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1017494052.262.52.camel@notebook> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-message-flag: Magic 8-Ball says "Outlook not so good." I'll ask it about Exchange next. Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:14:08PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 13:27, Alan Eldridge wrote: > >> No PR? No announcement? No discussion of whether it should be there >> at all? I really think that it should not have been quietly snuck into the >> ports tree without anyone at all knowing it was happening. >Are you reading cvs-all? If so, you should know it. We don't have a >policy that each added port should be announced or that committer has to >put his new port in the PR before committing it. I only expected something overt and very visible because of the nature of this port. >> At the very least, I think you should disable fetching (the way the jdk >> ports do). If it can be automatically fetched you are placing people at >> legal risk, possibly without their knowledge. I'm sure M$ keeps track of >nor from ftp download location. Downloading source tarball could not >cause any troubles, because source downloading isn't restricted - what Not true. If you download it, you can be presumed to be "exposed" to it, in the sense that you have lost plausible deniability of having read any of it. See the particular sentence I quoted (long since snipped), >In general: people please go sane. If Microsoft released those sources, >it certainly knew that they will be downloaded and compiled on FreeBSD >boxes. IMO there is no need to suspect that they released it just to sue >naive FreeBSD'ers. IMO according them even that much trust is naive. And with that, I'll step back from this issue. -- AlanE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message