From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 13 12:42:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442DD16A4CE for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from server945.gisol.com (server945.gisol.com [207.44.208.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E5243D1D for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:42:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@countrypure.net) Received: from 216-229-72-65-dialup-mo.fidnet.com ([216.229.72.65] helo=countrypure.net) by server945.gisol.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ark9J-0000zR-Ii; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:42:58 -0800 Message-ID: <402D3641.7000100@countrypure.net> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:40:33 -0600 From: Quintin Riis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Walkenhorst References: <402C4F8C.5020704@cox.net> <402C65D7.1080802@countrypure.net> <20040213142907.04d9c5b5.krylon@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20040213142907.04d9c5b5.krylon@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server945.gisol.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - countrypure.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Creating mp3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:42:58 -0000 Yes, mp3 does suck. Vorbis, AAC, and WMA are superior. Vorbis is better at all bitrates, not just above some magical number. I use my PDA to play files when I'm out and about, $80 for a cheap one on eBay. As you said though, there might be a few reasons for someone to use mp3. There are lots of cute little gagdets out there that support mp3 and wma, and not as many that support vorbis. This is changing though. Quintin Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:51:19 -0600 > Quintin Riis wrote: > > >>mp3 is outdated, use vorbis. > > > I wouldn't say so. > Unless you show me an affordable hardware-vorbis-player. There's plenty > of CD-Players that will also play mp3-CDs, just like most > standalone-DVD-players. > Also, I hear, XMMS does not support vorbis. I don't know for sure, > though. > > Furthermore, mp3 offers suffcient audio-quality (if your audio-source is > of good quality and your encoder is good) for most circumstances - > Vorbis, as far as I know, offers superior audio-quality only at bitrates > above 160 kbps. And at that bitrates, I don't think I could tell mp3 > from vorbis, at least not using my ES1371-based sound-card and my cheap > active speakers. > > Just to make things clear, there's *nothing* wrong with vorbis. If you > care for audio-quality primarily and your source offers that degree of > quality, go for vorbis! > But there *are* reasons for still using mp3, and it's not exactly like > mp3 sucks. =) > > >>abcde is nice, as is cdparanoia > > > AFAIK, abcde only serves as a frontend for various other tools > (cdparanoia, lame, oggenc, ...). You still need cdparanoia, oggenc, > lame, for abcde to work. > > >> Quintin > > > kind regards, > > Benjamin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >