From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Fri Dec 4 13:02:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF1CA40EF2 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDACB1CBD for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: by lbbkw15 with SMTP id kw15so20021455lbb.0 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lkf+KuWNiW96B2QTexLgfZXouzi1qfa35M2Vtau1B0Y=; b=HCuxNfqrMByX6leEHZk51yQA3XEx/rfFWoDT5guY8I64dFCLNvBrsy/5DaclciUynZ 65udzB7clMCwLMWhnJwlVfGnLcI/j172X3OmwZZ3gKYTHriCOIXf5cHCl0RYeIGADiQS IKyiIsbgBOJHb5zFQ1Vv1/HhwZwkHt8btqvhqivmkdpxPEQbM8BR+GA8mEMblBdwyyVf gRCgwKc03JsoWXRYY0sf13wim/N6msCq29r96gpi97qAs0kMgJ6O3GPI/sxGSTpGuEIS i5b6wXbLerxx38wqEB2h2S/rha5TIFIl1931AwJqPXJf+XhnfYuU0zImDQzF44/HxYeI OfdA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnbx0yEIpu2zzNq/QtlvCDQ922qR7l2UGem/kjvL4kRv8p4wWt0Iq+h6uHBc8mBX0Ev2nhh X-Received: by 10.112.118.39 with SMTP id kj7mr7612404lbb.77.1449232341812; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 04:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm2280597lfd.7.2015.12.04.04.32.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Dec 2015 04:32:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: svn commit: r402813 - head/misc/astrolog To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201512020629.tB26TbDb060296@repo.freebsd.org> <565E9DFA.6050502@marino.st> <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> <565EAD1E.8080805@marino.st> <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org> <565EB3B7.8030208@marino.st> <565EB894.4090402@freebsd.org> <565EBB1F.20208@marino.st> <565EBFA4.2010101@freebsd.org> <565EC203.2020204@marino.st> <565EC64D.2060701@freebsd.org> <565EC804.1070406@marino.st> From: Andrey Chernov X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <566187D3.8080009@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 15:32:19 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <565EC804.1070406@marino.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 13:02:24 -0000 On 02.12.2015 13:29, John Marino wrote: > On 12/2/2015 11:22 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 02.12.2015 13:03, John Marino wrote: >> Well, I am not native English speaker, but even I know difference >> between "can" I use in the commit message and "must" I don't use. In any >> case it is such privilege to meet someone who better knows what I mean, >> despite all my explanations. >> Good luck, excellent mind reader. > > For native English speakers, these are weasel words. We know what you > really meant and it doesn't take a mind reader. Your skill of English > far exceeds being able to blame this on a language barrier. > > Summary: > You make it clear that you think the previous commit should have made > the extra step to fix the port. I made it clear that I think you > shouldn't have have expectations like that and *DEFINITELY* should not > have documented those thoughts on a commit message that lasts forever. > > If that last line wasn't on the commit message, none of this conversion > ever would have happened, and if the unpleasantness means that it won't > happen again, it was worth it. Dear John, "we" all know that using word "we" in such context ("We know what you really meant") is "whole collective force vs. just single person" undisguised manipulation. ("it doesn't take a mind reader") Admitting ability of mind reading even without using specific mind read skills confirms your haughtily attitude even more. ("and if the unpleasantness") All unpleasant in this conversation is not your position about the ports, it can rightfully exist among other positions, with agreement or disagreement from others, it is normal, but only your superego-style to handle communications (f.e. by accusing me of dirty tricks of changing my words meaning), this is not productive and not acceptable. I may disagree with your position, but I admit it is consistent and have its place. But I can't accept anybody attempting to speak with me in such tone with insulting assumptions on any subject and need a little bit of respect to feel pleasant. So I prefer to stay away of speaking with you for a while not on this subject only, but on all other subjects too until this situation will be changed, I hope. Sincerely yours, -- http://ache.vniz.net/