From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 16 08:15:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C67065D6D9 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4G4dKr3Qdwz4sjj for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 27EC84E69D; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is a successful call to write(2) atomic? In-Reply-To: <20210616091158.313f9d26a415bf42ee0ebf94@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <28133.1623831342.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:15:43 -0700 Message-ID: <28134.1623831343@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G4dKr3Qdwz4sjj X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[69.62.255.118:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[69.62.255.118:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.996]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:15:45 -0000 In message <20210616091158.313f9d26a415bf42ee0ebf94@sohara.org>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> I'll try both... O_APPEND, with and without locking... but it kind of >> seems to me that if O_APPEND, by itself, were actually doing what the man >> page says it does, then that alone ought to be enough to prevent garbling >> of the output lines. > > No, in the ABDEF example the ABC process calls write and finds the >end of file and sets up ABC to be written there then the DEF process calls >write and finds EOF when the A and B have been written out but not C however >C gets written between the DEF process finding the end of file and writing >D out so C gets written and then overwritten. The O_APPEND guarantee that >the blocks are written contiguously starting at EOF is held but nothing >prevents the blocks from two writers interleaving and writing over each >other. ACK. Thank you. I'll do both and hope for the best. Regards, rfg