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Date:      Sat, 13 May 2017 09:32:36 -0700
From:      Ngie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        rgrimes@freebsd.org
Cc:        Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r318250 - in head: etc etc/newsyslog.conf.d etc/syslog.d tools/build/mk
Message-ID:  <E92037DB-3739-4BA9-BC96-A50855F19B04@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <E6B91EBC-7E7B-4A0B-9807-506A786EDC45@gmail.com>
References:  <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <E6B91EBC-7E7B-4A0B-9807-506A786EDC45@gmail.com>

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> On May 13, 2017, at 09:29, Ngie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> On May 13, 2017, at 08:37, Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.ne=
t> wrote:
>=20
>>> Author: ngie
>>> Date: Sat May 13 03:10:50 2017
>>> New Revision: 318250
>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/318250
>>>=20
>>> Log:
>>> Handle the logfiles in newsyslog and syslogd conditionally, based on
>>> src.conf(5) knobs
>>>=20
>>> This will allow consumers of FreeBSD to use the unmodified configuration=

>>> files out of the box more than previously.
>>=20
>> What about simply generating proper newsyslog.conf and syslog.conf based
>> on the the MK_ values rather than change the visible administration
>> interface that has finger memory, ansible, and puppet support?
>=20
> - My employer doesn't use puppet on its appliances.
> - Files snapshotted in time bitrot (which was the case with our configs, w=
hich is part of the reason behind this change.
> - It's really easy to screw up a mergemaster call if you edit the files, a=
nd install the stock version which removes the edits.

Also, programmatically removing the entries means you have to bake the metad=
ata into etc/Makefile, which is already complicated enough as-is.
Thanks,
-Ngie=



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