From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 22:18: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EF614D02 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2239 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:46:00 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:45:59 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Graeme Tait Cc: Roger Marquis , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: <3744C34B.409E@echidna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Graeme Tait wrote: > James Wyatt wrote: > > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. [ ... ] > > content. beware... What is wrong with signalling the server once a day? > > A 'kill -1' causes Apache to immediately kill off all the server children, > aborting transfers in progress - not too good for a busy commerce server. In > addition, new children must be spawned, causing a hiatus of a few seconds > (sometimes appreciably more) with incoming requests piling up until full > performance is restored. A 'kill -1' also zeros out server statistics. Doing > all this seems a bit silly just to rotate log files. Ouch... Our stuff is fairly quiet from 00:00..02:00 and almost everthing is very short-duration. (We may see that change with BlueStone) As more of the sites get populated with PDF files and larger JPGs, I expect this will become more important to us. I wonder what it's impact on the PHP module is, any one out there know? As for stats, we analyze on logs and usually use the internal server stats for realtime checks on Apache servers. The formats are close enough between NetScape and Apache servers and we're more used to them. [ ... ] > With all the features and flexibility built into Apache, it seems > disappointing that the log rotation issue doesn't seem to have been > addressed better. Given what you have pointed-out, I have to agree. Anyone know if improvements in this area are on their todo/wish list? Thanks for the info - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message