From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 2 08:15:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39A0106564A for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEDA8FC0C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so321441qyk.13 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:15:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7gwmvtjFAYnWZidJOtGas/gwiQ/5bLhSr1PjSjze/+0=; b=mJAFmg6PZayailexim/N9jWiE5NF4/TPCo4BBagaIwWli8roEQPFVcclX0mZZW6vdK PXtFLL/3sNcvEESvYLx9l04SdO9J15zrrwSq8H6hbTY7qq0oYc2RHXFHizzMPLBQeqF4 Y6ggdqOy+vaicxOXUbWZW3f+cGr6PhE4vJKIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.194.70 with SMTP id dx6mr3309884qab.309.1309592780552; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 00:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.47.148 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 00:46:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110702052453.GA1182@faust> References: <20110702052453.GA1182@faust> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 03:46:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Zoran Kolic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dell latitude 13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:15:58 -0000 On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: > Dear folks! > I see threads on the laptop subject, some forums also, > but no clue for cheap lapper with freebsd compatibility. > There is a chance to get mentioned box for about 450 > euros, without OS and with specs like this: > > Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz > Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset) > Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) > 13.3" 1366x768 HD WLED Anti-Glare (screen) > Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi) > ExpressCard > 6-cell Li-lon battery > FreeDos (OS) > > I'm aware of something called "optimus" to optimize graphics > and inability to know prior getting laptop home. Someone > already has this laptop? To me it looks like it should work > out of the box. > I tend to like box to be cold and silent. If you have idea > or better laptop in the price range, I'd be eager to know. > Best regards all > > Zoran > > For laptops you may check the following site : http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM for hardware compatibility issues , for example , search Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) , and other chips . It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledge whether a computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because these are very different systems . Therefore my idea is to avoid FreeDOS loaded computers if it is to be used for FreeBSD or Linux . The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without cost ( if the computer is NOT a DOS computer , i.e. , FreeBSD ( Unix ) , Linux can work on it ) . Over the years , always my suggestion to my friends is to select at least a computer having Linux installed . If there is Linux on it and it is working it is very likely that it will work with FreeBSD . If you can find a laptop as FreeBSD is installed , it is much better than any other ones . Another way is to test the computer for FreeBSD is to start it with a FreeBSD LiveCD ( This will not show the FreeBSD can be installed and run successfully . Over time , some programs may crash due to missing circuit parts because such parts are NOT included into the circuits because they are NOT necessary for DOS or its children . With a few run , this point can not be understood without applying test programs ( which I do NOT know any such program name ) . Such a feature may turn your computer unusable for you with FreeBSD or Linux over time when it occurs under a required program . ) . As a summary , to such Live CD checks , do NOT rely on much , actually ignore such pseudo-tests . For other BSD related GUI Live CD distributions , you may check the following site : http://www.livebsd.org/ Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk