From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 15 02:13:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21896106566B for ; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03FA8FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25859 invoked by uid 399); 15 Aug 2010 02:13:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 15 Aug 2010 02:13:18 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4C674D3D.3090402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:13:17 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100807 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <20100813085235.GA16268@freebsd.org> <4C66C010.3040308@FreeBSD.org> <4C673F02.8000805@FreeBSD.org> <20100815013438.GA8958@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4C67492C.5020206@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: core@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official request: Please make GNU grep the default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:13:20 -0000 On 08/14/2010 19:02, Randy Bush wrote: >> I think that new grep which is ____ times slower than the old grep is >> still in the acceptable range. > > > > you are forcing more time to be spent on the mailing list than working > the code. Not my intention at all, but I feel your pain. I really thought this was a slam dunk or I wouldn't have even brought it up. > and many of us have to care about the license issue. But you're covered on the license issue. The code is in the base already, and no one is suggesting removing it (as Warner pointed out earlier today). What I REALLY don't want to see happen here is a "religious fervor about the license is more important than performance" situation. If I wanted that kind of drama I'd use linux. (OTOH religious fervor about proving me wrong is almost as amusing as it is unfortunate, but that doesn't negatively impact our users.) Meanwhile, I'm pretty confident this is my last post on the issue of changing the default. I've said everything I wanted to say, and obviously it's not as clear cut as I thought it was. Doug -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover! http://SupersetSolutions.com/ Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso