From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 04:03:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF08106564A; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@altadena.net) Received: from kestrel.altadena.net (kestrel.altadena.net [207.136.131.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734268FC1C; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@altadena.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=1.kestrel; d=altadena.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pyXqvADQ7zsjZZJiJ1kRzhji7Gy7QFRMsnNogkIgBYINnYlXIm3muCxOk2MnvA8cgiafjOA2VScR8g34juVaDZ/376VjHsPhTrB4HX5WEL4ph79cXxR8teZ6kxSqzDWvARyZXOLHAoEVV3aIGFOofMBe12pbE3PrWY83xz+gMq4=; Received: from c-69-137-63-84.hsd1.md.comcast.net ([69.137.63.84] helo=port3.altadena.net) by kestrel.altadena.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LP7qI-000GBk-Uk; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:03:59 -0800 Message-ID: <49754D2D.2030902@altadena.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:03:57 -0500 From: Pete Carah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <49747F10.7050801@altadena.net> <4974EC4C.4020004@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4974EC4C.4020004@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Big problems with 7.1 locking up :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:03:59 -0000 Well, following up on my own reply earlier, I csup'd releng_7 with a date of last dec 1; the result works fine in the laptop. I'll reload the eastern soekris tonight and see how it does. If the soekris is fine also then this gives a data point for whenever the bad commit(s) happened. I had apparently made the mistaken assumption that a general release should be better debugged than the work-in-progress leading up to it... As I noted before - I'm in the business of *using* computers, not doing fbsd kernel work (I actually do linux kernel (device driver) work in $dayjob, but so far prefer fbsd for general use, like routers and servers.) I need to regen the soekris config here with the 12.01 also; if it doesn't hang either then I can hope that someone can look through commit notes (I certainly don't have the time or internal knowledge of 7.x to do so) and try figure out what may have happened. My daughter is tired of rebooting the soekris that is 2800 miles west of here. One extra data point: the systems that work OK with the release code have Intel chipsets (older - ich3 and ich5). The laptop is an AMD64 in 32-bit mode with an ATI chipset and broadcom wireless (hence uses project evil, which has its own problems with hangs). Soekris is Geode SC1100 with its own builtin "chipset", presumably a mish-mash of things from Cyrix, National, and AMD, given the Geode series's history. It is not possible to gen a system or kernel on the soekris; gcc 4.x won't run in 128mb of ram with no swap (they run from cf cards; swap is not possible.) I have to cross-compile them and reload the cf cards externally if possible; if not I use nfs (which breaks the system badly if it hangs during a make install; this happened this past weekend, fortunately not on the other coast :-( -- Pete