From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 11:08:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06D916A41F; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:08:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (heechee.tobez.org [217.157.39.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E4E43D8A; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:08:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1F076125456; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:08:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:08:20 +0100 From: Anton Berezin To: Yen-Ming Lee Message-ID: <20060109110820.GE57641@heechee.tobez.org> References: <20051221062909.GA93715@utopia.leeym.com> <43A91FC2.3010009@protey.ru> <20051221123849.GA39303@utopia.leeym.com> <20051221131100.GZ63964@droso.net> <20060106064633.GA67302@utopia.leeym.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060106064633.GA67302@utopia.leeym.com> X-Powered-By: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for 5.005_03 [Was: about converters/p5-MIME-Base64 on perl 5.00503] X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:08:37 -0000 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:46:33PM +0800, Yen-Ming Lee wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 02:11:00PM +0100, Erwin Lansing wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:38:49PM +0800, Yen-Ming Lee wrote: > > > > > > I tried your suggestion about devel/p5-XSLoader, and it works. > > > > Thanks for looking into this. I wasn't too happy to remove support for > > 5.005_03 from this port, but couldn't find an easy way around it. > > > > > > However, I agree that we should review our supporting policy for old perl. > > > > > I personally don't care much about 5.005_03 anymore. There's just too > > much that doesn't work with it anymore and it's easy for people to > > install perl from ports, also on 4.x. I think people really should > > consider moving to 5.8.7. Even 5.6.x is quite old now, 5.0x goes back to > > the stone age. Keeping support for the rest of the 4.x lifetime will be > > too big a PITA. > > > > If we can agree on this (or something else), it may be a good idea to > > publish this somewhere so the rest of the world knows this. > If we can (or wanna see if we can) stop supporting perl 5.005_03, what > should we do next? My take would be: 1. Mention it in the docs (somewhere). 2. Add a pre-everything conditional on USE_PERL5 and PERL_LEVEL < 500600 to bsd.port.mk that bitches along the lines "this is not guaranteed to work and is unsupported, please upgrade". 3. Stop trying to ensure that ports work with 5.005_03. 4. DEPRECATE things like databases/p5-DBI-137. 5. Go party. \Anton. -- An undefined problem has an infinite number of solutions. -- Robert A. Humphrey