From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Apr 5 16:40:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B7A5BF2D8 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FDbxb2PwNz4q4f for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5350C334 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 11:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id D172DC380; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 11:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 11:40:26 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: freebsd-stable stable Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Message-ID: References: <202104051444.135EixF6025306@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FDbxb2PwNz4q4f X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of merlyn@geeks.org designates 2001:4980:3333:1::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=merlyn@geeks.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.28 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:4980:3333:1::1:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[geeks.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:4980:3333:1::1:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7753, ipnet:2001:4980::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 16:40:36 -0000 On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 06:57:31PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > On 05.04.2021 17:44, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > - remove ftp:// and http:// from libfetch. This is 2021 and we should all > > use https://. > Please, explain how to setup simple sever which allows upload and on-server file management with https ;-) > > I know letters "WebDAV", but I don't know any ftp-like client for it. And server is apache24, which is much more huge security target than simple ftpd. WebDAV is not simple, is not straight forward to use, and is not a FTP like setup for HTTP. I'd agree that libfetch requires ftp: and http: methods in it. The server set somebody runs may allow only modern stuff in it, but my network has items in it that only support the old stuff that can't be upgraded short of a forklift upgrade.