From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jun 17 9:26: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from www.tech-nic.dk (www.tech-nic.dk [194.19.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D8D14F9E for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlarsen@tech-nic.net) Received: from tech-nic.net (pc3.tech-nic.dk [194.255.57.228]) by www.tech-nic.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10450 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:27:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <37691F50.BD7BE4A4@tech-nic.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:16:16 +0200 From: Michael Larsen Reply-To: mlarsen@tech-nic.net Organization: www.tech-nic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What now? References: <3766629A.6231@cs.strath.ac.uk> <004401beb7fa$693831b0$c12ad9c1@age.jobak.no> <19990617085740.12511@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I can only strongly agree to what sue says, in fact i think it's the ONLY way.. But if you have a urgent need for a working version, I can make you a prober iso file, that you can use on a floppy. Send me a mail including: Type of hardware (inside/outside) You ip addresse (official, and preffered if you use, or want to use NAT) list of roules (allow /deny) for you network. Etc. The version i make has no editor nor has it any telnet, telnetd or snmp. In fack it's a pretty striped version, made only from a security point of view. Realy the only thing you have to change is the root password. an run update (And you should) :) I build from (NET) V.044. Regards Michael Larsen Sue Blake wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 03:16:14PM +0200, Åge J. Haugstad wrote: > > I have never used any unix system before, but I found that PicoBSD > > might be suitable as an economic router/firewall. > > You always get what you pay for. With free unix you pay for it with study. > Unix is not designed to be user-friendly, but it is designed to do its > job very well. You have to become machine-friendly instead. > > PicoBSD is the worst way to learn unix that I can think of. It is a > very cut down version of a large powerful operating system, set up to > do a specific task for those who know what they are doing. There is no > documentation, no "help", you just have to know it. > > A better idea would be to get yourself a 486 or better with at least > 300MB disk space and install FreeBSD, not PicoBSD, and start learning. > Buy the new (3rd) edition of The Complete FreeBSD and work through it. > The book comes with a set of CDs from which you can install FreeBSD > and thousands of programs. > > Go to www.freebsd.org and from there: > 1 Follow the link at the bottom to FreeBSD Mall to buy the book and CDs > 2 Follow the link under Documentation to the Newbies guide, and explore > the many links on that page. > > Your 486 with a normal installation of FreeBSD will become a cheap > router and firewall, about the time that you become someone who is > actively learning about unix. > > Much later, when you really know what you're doing, you can apply what > you know to using PicoBSD on a machine with less disk space, if you > have a need to do it that way. > > Well that's my opinion. Others on this list are welcome to disagree. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message -- Michael Larsen / mlarsen@tech-nic.net \ www.tech-nic.net -= Member of *BSD-Dk USER GROUP | www.bsd-dk.dk =- -- Bash# grep evil www.microsoft* | /dev/NULL -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message