From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 16:34:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BE216A469; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541DE13C4BD; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1879F2FB2; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:34:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sd4xy2Wb5p1h; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21D69F2F9C; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:34:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4672BF95.4080400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:34:29 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev References: <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Kirill Ponomarew , Andrew Pantyukhin , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:34:40 -0000 Alexey Dokuchaev escribió: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 05:44:08PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > >> >> Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved >> by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or >> just "portsmon". I don't want to see here the "yet another policy >> and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@ >> or just pav, "via" kris or just kris. Andrew, I'm just repeating, >> these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to >> ports-committers list. >> > > Andrew is being perhaps overly pedantic here, but he's right in > principal. Consistency and standard conformance even in format of > "Foobared by:" entries doesn't lower quality of our ports, does it? > Yeah, rules, policies and consistency are the things, which makes things keep going frictionless. > >>> As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is >>> the most appropriate one because this is primarily an >>> inter-committer process. >>> >> You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers >> list just to know the changes in the ports tree. They're not >> interested in the above notes. So, please respect our users as well >> and don't think only about committers guys. >> > > Kirill, those non-committers who read ports-committers@ are very likely > to consider being a submitter (or even committer!) in the future. In > this case I find it useful if they learn most common mistakes *before* > they start making them themselves. This is one of rare cases when one > can learn on others' mistakes as well (i.e., good) as on their own. > > There are no non-committers reading ports-committers. The ports-committers list is a private list for those ones, who are in CVSROOT/access for the ports repo. Similarly doc-committers and src-committers serve in the same way but for the doc and src repos. I agree that all of us should learn from each other, thus the comments are useful and valuable. Even if one is not interested in the reaction for one's commit, one is responsible for the quality of one's work. It is not a rude criticism, just a helpful hand to make things better here, thus it should be interpreted in this way. Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org