From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:18:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBFA16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5C43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0DMIp005701; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:18:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:18:51 -0600 From: John To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com>; from algould@datawok.com on Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:56 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote: > > I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people > > can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and > > recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want > > to be. [ deleted for brevity ] > > I see my options as this: > > 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite > > instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically > > possible - but feasible?) > > 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the > > installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the > > kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need > > to make / and /usr?) > > 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation, > > using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits. > > > > Other suggestions? Anything obvious I'm missing? You folks have > > been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution > > I'm just missing! > > 1. Upgrade the hard drive. Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to support the environment I want? Maybe... > 2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you install > FreeBSD. Yup - learned THAT the hard way! We do need to update the handbook and other documentation in this regard - the current docs give the impression that the only problem is that the boot manager gets lost. I was, therefore, entirely ready for that, and had everything at hand to put it back - only to discover after putting the boot manager back that the problem was far, far worse than that. Of course, that may be due to the ancient Windows I was installing. > 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than > 5.2.1. Sigh. OK. I'll have to see if I can build that from what I have already... Pointers to a way to build a distribution set for 5.3-STABLE from what I have built? > 4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources. Use the binary > packages. Oh, definitely! That is what I intend to do. Since I am using OpenOffice, should I use kde-lite instead of the full kde installation? > 5. When you install from ports, make sure you "make install clean" to > remove working files when they're no longer needed. OK, but that system, where I have the sources and all, is not hurting for space. > 6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but exclude > OpenOffice. Not only can portupgrade take care of dependencies, but it > has options to look for binary packages online before opting to compile > from source. Ah hah! This is a trick I didn't know. I'll learn that. Thanks! > Best of luck, > > Andrew Gould Thank you, Andrew. I'd still like to know why the disk footprint for what I want seems to have grown to dramatically. My hunch is that when I did the "installworld" I got a bunch of "distributions" (to use the install terminology) that I didn't intend, but that's just speculation on my part. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG