From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 19 11:29:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00375 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (slipper5a.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00370 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zeus.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13761; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: jack X-Sender: jack@zeus.xtalwind.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Price of FreeBSD (was On Holy Wars...) In-Reply-To: <3933.861467275@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > NT is nice.... it has some bullet proof features.... but NOW I can't get > > at the machine. Another Mac, a computer with training wheels that you can't take off. > Yes, however, our problem is that we don't have BOTH and we really > should. I mean, imagine it - all the fancy setup and configuration > tools (and SDKs and style guides and ...) of Win95 and the > underpinnings of UNIX for those who wanted it underneath. By `fancy setup and configuration tools' I sure hope you don't mean NT's install that blew up on us probing an Adaptec 1542. We tried to let it do it on its own twice and both times it locked up right there. To be fair, the screen did warn that SCSI hardware might be too complicated for it to figure out. > That would truly be the best of both worlds, and the only thing I've > seen which actually comes remotely close is OS/2. It actually has a > decent network suite (very Berkeley-ish and probably ported from it) > and one of the best X servers for a non-UNIX platform I've ever used. > Of course, we all know what's happening to OS/2.. :-) Yeah, in the retail market IBM couldn't sell $10 bills for $5 each. :( -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD --------------------------------------------------------------------------