Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:56 -0500 From: David Jackson <djackson452@gmail.com> To: Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD Message-ID: <CAGy-%2Bi9pYgB3VjG8KQg98Bfr5Ax2BOLOnuqrzOe_P5juDe%2BVjw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120130215826.140fa9df@mpw> References: <CAGy-%2Bi-6GLfoUuhUExjnVEKhM00TuUimhKuhboLkjBeXNk9hFg@mail.gmail.com> <20120130215826.140fa9df@mpw>
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 > David Jackson <djackson452@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on > > Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: > > > > *portupgrade -PP -a > > *portmaster -PP -a > > *pkg_update > > > > All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an > > unuseable state. > > What's unusable? For instance, servers are perfectly usable without > graphical tools. If you have tried `endlessly` why didn't you > consult /usr/ports/UPDATING and just recompile the ports without > using binary packages? > Or you might want to try PCBSD, it's FreeBSD with some fancy stuff > taken care of which might solve the problem you complain about. > > > I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs and would rather install some packages and have it all work right away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. > > Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system "just work". Right > > after installing FreeBSD I should be able to type a single command > > such as update_packages and it should update all packages on the > > system, with no errors and without requiring any configurations to be > > troubleshooted, it should work out of the box. > > > > Why not? Why is something so simple so difficult and impossible? > > Ubuntu can do it, why not FreeBSD? > > FreeBSD unlike Ubuntu is an entirely volunteer project. Ubuntu has > a dedicated corporation working on it and I guess a larger user base. > The reason that FreeBSD has a smaller user base is because it has a dysfunctional package system and it is hard to upgrade package to the most recent version, making FreeBSD more difficult to use/ But doing a workable package system is not difficult, it something that FreeBSD should be easily able to make it easy to have a way to upgrade packages to most recent versions out of box anbd in an error free and reliable way. > > > > Why cant FreeBSD Just make the package upgrades work. > > Because uh well it's not up to FreeBSD since the ports work perfectly > with the documentation that comes with it or it might depend on the user > base also, but _you_ can help to make binary package upgrades work > better. > > > A working package system is a part of any good operating system and saves time from having to compile programs. It is more convenient for most users to use packages so having a package system will make FreeBSD more popular. the reason freebsd is not used by as many people as Ubuntu is because of the extreme difficulty and unreliability of using FreeBSD. FreeBSD does not HAVE to make the system reasonably easy to use for common users who want to install packages, but it would be the right thing to do, especially if FreeBSD wants more users. > > Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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