From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 01:06:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B50916A4BF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF5F43F93 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:06:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@iki.fi) Received: (qmail 34964 invoked by uid 11053); 27 Oct 2003 09:06:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2003 09:06:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:06:52 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20031027080240.GA9552@rot13.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20031027110203.B96390@trillian.santala.org> References: <200310270731.AAA23485@lariat.org> <20031027080240.GA9552@rot13.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best way to filter "Nachi pings"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:06:58 -0000 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 12:31:46AM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > > We're being ping-flooded by the Nachi worm, which probes subnets for > > systems to attack by sending 92-byte ping packets. Unfortunately, > > IPFW doesn't seem to have the ability to filter packets by length. > > Assuming that I stick with IPFW, what's the best way to stem the > > tide? > > Block all ping packets? Most security-conscious admins do this D'oh? I like ping very much and it would make me very sad indeed if I couldn't ping my boxes to solve possible network problems along the way. I fail to see the security problem and possible DoS issues could be solved by using limiting of sort. Definitely this block-all approach is not sane, its like if someone complains about NFS being broken you'd say disable it. Filtering packets by length on the other hand is a very nice feature to have. =09-jake --=20 Jarkko Santala System Administrator http://iki.fi/jake= /