From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 14:03:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C9616A4D0 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CADD43D55 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so99357rnf for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:03:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oc5+HL4jjjZw5thgfi00o58tyycbYsCP0dMDyPD45fkQ9gqQ+9jpNEViuhfdZWYTip7ZKo5puUQFy7n3DqJipsA1xtTiOIG0cZ5gpCBIBzwmQ1tfQuLpep9kCMfTBth0vln/fz+l5Gce9k6bOI1D9muRf+dCOZvlE8OB/6VABFs= Received: by 10.38.171.5 with SMTP id t5mr61029rne; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.101.19 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:03:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:03:30 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1905317067.20050210103050@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200502092223.01650.algould@datawok.com> <1905317067.20050210103050@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:03:31 -0000 Anthony Atkielski writes: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > > And, I am also concerned about the historical revisionists who > > are claiming FreeBSD never had a logo. That is hogwash. > > Where can I see the logo? > > > Nobody ever said that FreeBSD lacked a logo until after a few days ago > > when this ill-conceived competition was leaked - because everyone knew > > the logo was Beastie. > > That's not a logo. Just about every image I've seen of Beastie has been > different, so it's not a logo, it's a character associated with the > brand (like Mickey Mouse). Logos are simple and instantly recognizable; > they do not mutate from one presentation to the next. Most open-source > projects don't have logos; even Linux lacks a proper logo (one could > probably be made from the popular penguin character, but I haven't seen > any examples). > Okay, I figured I just as well join in...seems like a good idea. I'm choosing this email to respond to: randomly selected from a relatively large number of messages expressing this same idea. The logo can be seen on the website www.freeBSD.org. it is in fact a relatively (from a printing perspective) high-resolution image of our daemon, holding a pitchfork on his left side. He is slightly facing forward, though looks off somewhat to the right. I know, "He's a mascot, not a daemon"...but that's not entirely true (not true at all?). dictionary.com says that a logo is a A name, symbol, or trademark designed for easy and definite recognition, especially one borne on a single printing plate or piece of type. or a n : a company emblem or device These are definitely vague enough to not disqualify an image of our daemon on technical merit. Further, FreeBSD proper calls the daemon image our logo (see logo_saver.ko). Before I read another of these stating that beastie is not a logo, I thought I should voice the fact (not my opinion, mind you) that we do indeed have a logo, albeit one that could use some modification to ease reproduction. (The latter part being opinion) -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised.