From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 10:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4426316A4BF for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (papagena.rockefeller.edu [129.85.41.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3D243F93 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@papagena.rockefeller.edu) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) h83HYV9H014698; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:34:31 -0400 Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by papagena.rockefeller.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h83HYUOv014696; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:34:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:34:30 -0400 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030903173430.GA14686@online.fr> Mail-Followup-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2xr82xlu07.82x@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20-20.9smp i686 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 17:35:14 -0000 Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Terry Lambert writes: > > Adobe gives away only the viewer. They sell the creation tool, > > and they do not give away source code to the viewer. They guard > > the file format and third party tools via vigorous enforcement > > practices utilizing all tools at their disposal, including the > > DMCA. > > Please explain further. I thought that PDF was a sort of > PostScript-ng, with an unobfuscated (or even documented) file format. Yes and no. For xpdf's take on it, see http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/cracking.html > Does Adobe think > its developers and/or users copyright infringers under the DMCA? Haven't you heard of the Sklyarov case? Google for it, see in particular the EFF site. http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Elcomsoft/us_v_sklyarov_faq.html Rahul