From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 7 5:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5850837B52B for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12zfIm-0006tI-00; Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:51:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:51:20 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Coleman Kane Cc: Bosko Milekic , void , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kerneld for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000607145120.A26432@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000607013058.A32270@firedrake.org> <20000607014353.A10364@cokane.yi.org> <20000607124949.A25014@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000607084842.C11781@cokane.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000607084842.C11781@cokane.yi.org>; from cokane@one.net on Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 08:48:42AM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-06-07 (08:48), Coleman Kane wrote: > Well, a lot of drivers aren't modules yet. It was basically an idea to > move the kernel more towards a modular implementation. There will be a > large number of modules if all the drivers were to become modules. It > may not be, say, to everyone's liking to manually load a good deal of > those. Plus, there are many people who use FreeBSD for desktop or home > situations and even those who don't know a extremely large amount > about computer hardware and all. This would be a nice "option" to have > for some. If you're suggesting more modularity, that's great. You just confused me by mentioning "kerneld". I'm all for more modules. I still had problems with why you wanted a 'kerneld', but rwatson's suggestions about security, pccardd, usbd, do make sense. I do like the way the auto-ifconfig and auto-mount stuff works, though. At the very least, I'd like a probe-only way to find out what devices are available, given a bunch of device driver modules. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message