From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 8 14:56:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from radius.city-guide.com (radius.cityisp.net [216.2.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8495437B797 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@cityisp.net) Received: from thebomb.city-guide.com (unverified [216.3.179.5]) by radius.city-guide.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:07:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:09:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Lynch X-Sender: lynch@thebomb.city-guide.com To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opera, Linux Emulation, and the nasties... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Yes it does. "Defectors" who buy binaries targeted for another platform and > run them under emulation will appear on the marketing radar screen as > users of that other platform, making their own platform seem to have a > smaller user base by comparison. And by eliminating themselves from the > set of potential customers for a native port, they reduce the incentive > to create one. They're undermining their own platform. > > Use of an emulator should be reserved for emergencies only. > I run FreeBSD as my Desktop at home. I run FreeBSD only on Servers at work. I am stuck with NT until my new box comes in, my FreeBSD box was cannabalised during a corporate split( NT admins REALLY are A$$holes, no Joke...unlike overly stressed Unix Admins, hehe) I always try the FreeBSD native port when I want something. I also will try the Linux port, dropping the developers a friendly reminder that their particular product would run better on FreeBSD. I usually end the email with "it's Ok, everyone confuses Linux with FreeBSD." FreeBSD runs better, has a better file system ... we already covered this, so everyone agrees. I also like Linux emulation. I want Real Player 7 to run on my box at home. Remember 5.0? that worked great. FreeBSD has been geared towards servers, and obviously it's nice desktop capabilities are usually not conidered , which I think is the reason you don't have native ports for lots of regularly updated apps. Hell, half of the linux programs I actually have run better on my FreeBSD box than on my Linux one. Linux eats my memory and my swap space quicker than I can yawn thru this thread. : -) If you want to push FreeBSD as a an all around Server/Desktop, then by all means start. I've been successfully running it as a desktop for 2 years and , have noticed that each release it gets easier to setup which ever major desktop you wish to try. ( such as during install... I haven't tried it, I still copy xinit over to my home directory and edit it) So, they want opera and I want real player and media player. If I could write it , I would. But, I can't. I'm not going to jump ship and give up on FreeBSD just because company X can care less what happens to my favorite OS. Hell, I like FreeBSD so much, it steared my towards actually wanting to be a sysdamin. I went out and found a job that centers around it. My bosses also agree that they wouldn't dream of replacing our FreeBSD servers with Linux or Solaris boxes. FreeBSD is a f---ing work-horse. The only bad thing is it is still in it's infancy, in which I mean that not alot of people have heard of it. Other than that, I doubt anyone will defect. If they run from FreeBSD because they can't play games, so what. Later, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message