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Subject: Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)
From: Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Matthew D. Fuller
<fullermd@over-yonder.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500 I heard the voice of
> Bryan Drewery, and lo! it spake thus:
>>
>> Take openssl for example, [...]
>
> From the user perspective, this in particular has been an occasional
> but steady low-level grumble of mine for years, and I've definitely
> come to wish it were hidden away.  The few times I've wanted a newer
> version for something and tried using the ports openssl, it's just
> turned into a giant mess of conflicts between the two and I've had to
> give up and undertake a big cleanup process.  Maybe if you set the
> make.conf flag and go only ports openssl straight from the first
> server setup it would work right, but I'm not even sure about _that_.
> Wasn't there just a discussion earlier this week about something not
> honoring it right?
>
This was caused by the port maintainer deciding to force the port to
always us the base version of OpenSSL on FreeBSD >= 10.  Instead of
letting the sysadmin decide on which to use (port / base).