From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Aug 4 18:40:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49CCAEEAD for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raichoo@acmelabs.space) Received: from mail.acmelabs.space (acmelabs.space [185.244.195.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 461qT15rwTz3GcF for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raichoo@acmelabs.space) Received: from lain.fritz.box (dslb-088-077-024-191.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de [88.77.24.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.acmelabs.space (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63722D19 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:39:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=acmelabs.space; s=dkim; t=1564943998; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zCDEq3CwMwChixaRU92Y4XZkfuVx8xMlRAQUcs9yneg=; b=oUMrhwIKCjD03DRb4JhSv3Lw1Qzk2gYsWcIESN0TmaByLd+v68UOfzqmv+EpJzdOeVUWvM lBtF5kl/n8hiKBGQ8czuYn3vjE23eaXNVPNug7ObyBpG1FEx2B6rnqV1O9nNz+IlJn7Qqb 6Fabx5eeQHln8oHEsPXBKdRlTZspBq8= Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:39:57 +0200 From: raichoo To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Graphics Team Meeting Minutes Message-ID: <20190804183957.GA2933@lain.fritz.box> References: <76518114-183b-2b67-643d-d7f8833b4fd1@daemonic.se> <1ry2-rf1d-wny@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 461qT15rwTz3GcF X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=acmelabs.space header.s=dkim header.b=oUMrhwIK; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of raichoo@acmelabs.space has no SPF policy when checking 185.244.195.243) smtp.mailfrom=raichoo@acmelabs.space X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[acmelabs.space:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.45)[0.446,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.927,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[acmelabs.space]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[acmelabs.space:+]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; IP_SCORE(0.54)[asn: 197540(2.71), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:185.244.192.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[191.24.77.88.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 18:40:07 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:12:23AM -0700, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > Toxic attitudes ain't gonna make things move faster. How about joining the > meetings and actively participate instead of whining and complaining from > the sidelines as you always do? Sounds great, so let me chime in. I'm currently porting my windowmanager over to wayland and I'm doing this on FreeBSD. In the process I've hacked together all parts of the graphics stack to get things working (self built Xwayland, because the shipped version was segfaulting on me), self built epoll shim, wlroots etc. It works surprisingly well and maybe some of this could be useful for upstream (if only for, "I've tested this and it works, can someone else confirm this?") I would really like to help to improve wayland support on FreeBSD, I'm certainly not an expert but maybe I contribute some useful things. So, how and where are these Team Meeting minutes taking place? Are there any preliminaries? Sorry if these questions apear to be more or less uninformed I've sort of learned about the existance these meetings via this thread and was hoping to add are more positive vibe. On a sidenote, I was also thinking about organizing a hackathon next year in Bielefeld Germany, hoping to bring together some more people who maybe want to hack on better wayland support, apart from other BSD things. 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