From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 18:41:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDA6106568C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (cl-43.dus-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:198:200:2a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69A98FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (e180139110.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.139.110]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m99IfYCo066136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:41:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m99IfXbA004036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:41:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from uqs@localhost) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m99IfXnG004035; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:41:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:41:33 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: Peter Wemm Message-ID: <20081009184133.GA3822@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: svn-src-all Subject: Re: *** HEADS UP *** FreeBSD.org commit mail list changes X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:41:38 -0000 On Tue, 07.10.2008 at 15:47:08 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > To complete the transition process, I'm turning off cvs-style commit > messages for the "src" tree entirely. The only commit messages will > be svn-style. The cvs-src list will no longer get commit messages > (and will go away), and cvs-all will no longer get "src" commit > messages. (cvs-all will still get ports, projects, doc etc commits). > > In a brave attempt to try and make this transparent to end users, I > put on my peril sensitive sunglasses and copied the cvs-all and > cvs-src list members over to svn-src-all. Hi Peter, thanks for doing all the work. Since I'm sure the FreeBSD project will stick to Subversion for now (nobody said anything bad about it in public anyways), when can we expect to get r/o subversion access for the masses? I ask this, because by turning off CVS style commit messages, you are cutting as off from testing -CURRENT changes on -STABLE branches early on. For example, there was a commit recently, which should fix Flash9 on FreeBSD. Thanks to the CVS style message I got the information that I need file A rev 1.42 and file B rev 1.23. So I did the cvs di -r 1.41 -r 1.42 | patch dance and am about to test Flash9 on FreeBSD. This would not be easily possible with the SVN mails, as I would have to extract the patch from the mail body and cannot easily 'cvs diff' between the branches, as the revision are not apparent. I'm not asking you to turn CVS mails back on, just give us the subversion mirrors we crave for! :) Cheers, Ulrich Spoerlein -- It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak, and remove all doubt.