From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Mar 21 10:36:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62BD151CC for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07739; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:36:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd007728; Sun Mar 21 11:36:13 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14073; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:36:12 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199903211836.LAA14073@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: NFS - Will it ever be fixed? To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:36:12 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dennis@etinc.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" at Mar 19, 99 01:05:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > NFS continues, after many many years, to virtually lock up systems > > when the server goes away and anything on it is in the path. If you > > try to dismount it locks up also. > > That's a feature, and it can easily be turned off. > > "Users continue, after many years, to refuse to read documentation, > and blame their incompetence on the OS and its developers...." Making the thing fail with ESTALE on a server reboot is probably not as interesting to him as making the client recover from a server reboot. There was a recent posting on either -chat or -advocacy from an engineer at Apple working on Rhapsody (Mac Server X) using FreeBSD and NetBSD code. Apple has (apparently) corrected a lot of the NFS bogosity (amazing what you can do by ignoring the outside world and working within your own source tree), and the posting indicated a willingness (and a desire) to get these changes integrated back into FreeBSD. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message