From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 12 16:00:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A536216A4CE; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:00:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011943D3F; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.41 (FreeBSD)) id 1BvHzv-000LH3-I5; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:00:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:00:11 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Will Andrews Message-ID: <20040812160011.GG87690@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Will Andrews , Alfred Perlstein , "Bruce A. Mah" , Ken Smith , Oliver Eikemeier , Doug Barton , re@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org References: <20040812012909.GA25768@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <2CD52765-EC03-11D8-887A-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> <20040812030913.GD27338@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <1092287083.796.29.camel@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> <20040812053107.GK57908@elvis.mu.org> <20040812154941.GJ32036@sirius.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f8uTbadvzI+nQOZu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040812154941.GJ32036@sirius.firepipe.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:46:30 +0000 cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: Doug Barton cc: re@freebsd.org cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: Alfred Perlstein cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: Ken Smith cc: Oliver Eikemeier Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add Makefile add.h extract.c futil.c main.c perform.c pkg_add.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/create Makefile create.h main.c perform.c pkg_create.1 pl.c src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete Makefile delete.h main.c perform.c ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:00:13 -0000 --f8uTbadvzI+nQOZu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:31:07PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > But wouldn't it suck to be that user that actually does use '-c' > > correctly, and to have it suddenly gone in the middle of a "stable" > > release? >=20 > It is a broken mis-feature. Please tell me how you managed to > make it work properly. Do you have some sort of script that > sorts the output in order by dependency tree? Or do you actually > go through it every time and sort it by hand? Do you think that > it's justified that so many other users who didn't know what they > were doing shot themselves in the foot? >=20 > portupgrade is a much better tool. How about simply replacing -c > with a message suggesting use of that instead? These discussions happen every time something like this happens. The fact is that the development community have an agreement with the userbase that we will not do this. The fact that we all think that -c is shit doesn't change that. re@ need to make the call and everyone else, including myself, should shut the hell up (and doubly so, since re and eik have already agreed a resolution). Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --f8uTbadvzI+nQOZu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBG5QLocfcwTS3JF8RAmWMAJ9eyJZdwQv0jr9TUMQatfZmHgVWSQCgknXJ 3cdM1v83jCEI207w84h85w8= =dAvc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f8uTbadvzI+nQOZu--