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Date:      Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:04:12 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Joe McGuckin <joe@monk.via.net>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   FTP server problem ?
Message-ID:  <200110052204.f95M4CJ73523@monk.via.net>

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I have approx. 100 users coming in to my network via PPPOE.

There's an interesting anomaly that shows up when any of these users
attempt to retrieve a file from one of our ftp servers.

(I verified this with my linux laptop also)

The typical setup is as follows:


      A                  B                                      C              D
  PC --- PPPOE Router ------ Gige Switch -(fiber)- Gige Switch --- Cisco 7200 --- Switch --- Cisco 7200 --->>> Internet  
         LinkSys, etc                                              PPPOE sessions      |
         Performs NAT also                                         terminate here.     |
                                                                                       |
                                                                                      FTP server

FTP downloads from ftp.mozilla.org average about 4Mbits/sec
FTP downloads from my ftp server average about 90 kbits/sec

Scenario #1: PC or linux laptop at location 'A'
    (Using PPPoE and NAT)
    When performing downloads from mozilla.org, the PPPOE router activity light 
    blinks constantly, indicating uninterrupted thruput.

    When downloading from my ftp server, there a flurry of blinks, then a 5 second 
    pause. This sequence repeats until the transfer is completed.

Scenario #2: Linux laptop at location 'B',
    (No PPPoE or NAT involved)
     Ftp tranfers to my ftp server run at about 10 Mbits/second
     Ftp transfers to mozilla.org run at about 4 Mbits/sec

The questions are:

   1) When ftp'ing behind the PPPoE router, why is my ftp server exhibiting 
      slow transfers with multi-second delays between packets? Why doesn't 
      mozilla.org exhibit this behavior?

   2) What tcp/ip setting could the PPPOE router impose that would cause this 
      poor performance by my ftp server? MTU setting? 

   3) What further staps can I take to debug this? Are there any tcp debug flags or 
      ftp setting I could try ?

Thanks,

Joe


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Joe McGuckin

ViaNet Communications
994 San Antonio Road
Palo Alto, CA  94303

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