From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:09:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5550F36E; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout1.timeweb.ru (smtpout1.timeweb.ru [92.53.117.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06AA0987; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:09:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=amdmi3.ru; s=dkim; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=qgYfar3N3nwwY8koNVzG6Ykdk0bXn4y8WJ5l9lI5y/k=; b=TXAaNWLssPdTWWcr6tkjW/EBjh32uTLp4pgNLxhc+UGzbiit/kRPTPudKSkJT/QKwD/WTMxJRdIvG/mAwO+LED7ySyS/Ksmu81vuZ22WqxPGmk4AP7xJyfW7rL/mYZqmDneT3Yr/eSQsPgt163kaT1WappooooODSBWISQTUPDk=; Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Xk99D-000FcJ-SM; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:09:35 +0300 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846C2C55; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:09:35 +0400 (MSK) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A1B21D4E; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:09:35 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:09:35 +0300 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r371758 - in head/games/djgame2: . files Message-ID: <20141031100935.GG41348@hades.panopticon> References: <201410301626.s9UGQWQk014377@svn.freebsd.org> <5452BBE6.2020908@marino.st> <20141031003321.GF41348@hades.panopticon> <54533AC1.9080401@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54533AC1.9080401@marino.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, games@FreeBSD.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:09:41 -0000 * John Marino (freebsd.contact@marino.st) wrote: > > I've already written in the PR: since you've submitted it, please > > provide additional info by checking whether the games works - it > > should be trivial. No, games@ is not obliged to do investigation > > instead of you. In fact, there's no games@ team as such. > > That is absolute bull****. > If a member of games@ revives a port under the games@ maintainership, > you bet that he and the entire games@ team is responsible for ensuring > the port is valid *BEFORE* resurrecting it. Bull*** is your attitude. First, if you don't like what Rusmir did, discuss it with him. No, you won't blame games@ or me (as I take it personally) for it. Next, nobody is obliged to anyone while working on enthusiasm, especially not implicitely, based on what someone other did. Also, as far as I know, I'm the only one working on collectively/un-maintained games as of now, and I already have pretty much work to do. Finally, not related to what was said, usual problem report rules apply - if you see a problem, investigate it as much as you can before reporting. You could just spend 5 minutes of your time to investigate that, but you're instead blaming others and making them do work for you. That's not how it works. As a side note, if you think games@ is not supposed to work that way, I'm not against having it disbanded given other members do not object - while the team is useful for PR management, if it makes people think others are obliged to do work for them, or the false feeling that games@ ports are well maintained (which is physically impossible given the ports number and games@ team size), I'm against having the team. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru