Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:28:17 -0400 From: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: Arthur Mesh <arthurmesh@gmail.com>, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>, Xin Li <delphij@delphij.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d Message-ID: <201209121628.18088.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <504F0687.7020309@FreeBSD.org> References: <50453686.9090100@FreeBSD.org> <20120911082309.GD72584@dragon.NUXI.org> <504F0687.7020309@FreeBSD.org>
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:38:15 am Doug Barton wrote: > >>> Also, both jbh <201209050944.38042.jhb@freebsd.org> and RW > >>> <20120905021248.5a17ace9@gumby.homeunix.com> feel this likely does > >>> happen just from reading the code. Please explain from either > >>> (1) a code reading, or (2) your own instrumented kernel that dropping > >>> of input to /dev/random does not occur. > >> > >> Once again, you're the one asserting that there is a problem with a > >> system that has worked well for 12 years, so the burden of proof is on > >> you. That said, I'm interested in Arthur's evidence. > > > > Are you not a sufficient C programmer that you couldn't hack this up > > yourself with the amount of time you've spent arguing it? > > Seriously. Stop being such an ass. > > I've said lots of times now that my FreeBSD time is limited, and THE > BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU. If you think it's easy, whip it up. If you're > right, the truth will benefit all of us. Having watched this thread mostly from the outside, I have to say this much: this is a really rediculous argument that works both ways. Just because we don't have a documented vulnerability doesn't mean it doesn't exist either. Also, you are clearly wrong about /dev/random dropping input and refuse to admit that. To me that taints all your other claims and really weakens your arguments. -- John Baldwin
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