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Date:      Fri, 25 May 2001 11:08:30 -0700
From:      "Steve Brown" <steve@napanet.net>
To:        "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, "Michael Tang Helmeste" <glassfish@frogbox.dyndns.org>, <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
Message-ID:  <027f01c0e545$b4407080$3da2169d@napanet.net>
In-Reply-To: <019b01c0e2fe$eb384d40$3028680a@tgt.com>

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Same here, I have found that random sig 11's are often caused by memory or
CPU problems. One    thing to try is underclocking - if you are running 133
underclock to 100

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas T.
> Veldhouse
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:37 PM
> To: Michael Tang Helmeste; freebsd-security@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
>
>
> Swap memory and see.  I had the same problem (different program).  Apache
> kept dying was my first symptom.  Then postfix died occassionally.  MySQL
> dumped when used.  A few things like that.  It started happening
> on a system
> that had been working for the better part of a year.  It was the CPU.
>
> Sig 11 more often than not is a hardware problem.  There is only
> one case I
> know of that I can reproducibly create a sig 11 when it is not
> hardware.  If
> you run ncftp3 against a server and download a large directory using the
> "tar on the fly option", it will often dump core.  This could be the case
> with qmail, but I have not seen it reported, thus I think he should check
> his hardware.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Tang Helmeste" <glassfish@glassfish.net>
> To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>;
> <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
>
>
> > Well bad hardware is less likely than its trying to overwrite memory it
> > doesn't own. If he is being attacked, and it is a buffer
> overflow exploit,
> > than overwriting memory it doesn't own is more likely than it being
> > repeatidly hardware, especially after his system has been
> working fine all
> > this time.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [mailto:veldy@veldy.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:16 AM
> > To: Michael Tang Helmeste
> > Subject: Re: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
> >
> >
> > Signal 11 (and often10) very often signal bad hardware.  Memory
> and/or CPU
> > are usually the cause, followed by the main board.  Corruption occurs in
> > memory and a signal 11 results.
> >
> > Tom Veldhouse
> > veldy@veldy.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Tang Helmeste" <glassfish@glassfish.net>
> > To: <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
> >
> >
> > > actually it just means segmentation fault
> > >
> > > it happens when a program accesses some memory that it doesn't own
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Olivier Nicole
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:17 PM
> > > To: subscribed@de-net.org
> > > Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Qmail + FreeBSD 4.3
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > > Signa 11 often denotes some hardware problem I guess, something like
> > > overheating.
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > >
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