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Date:      Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:13:02 +0200
From:      Christophe Prévotaux <c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@mu.org>
Cc:        net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: MPLS
Message-ID:  <20010719131302.292b8c2f.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
In-Reply-To: <20010719045321.U2759@elvis.mu.org>
References:  <20010718123525.7df2028c.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20010718204608.R2759@elvis.mu.org> <20010719112514.7fae3f50.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20010719045321.U2759@elvis.mu.org>

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:53:21 -0500
Bill Fumerola <billf@mu.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:25:14AM +0200, Christophe Prévotaux wrote:
> > What is mostly wrong ? 
> 
> mpls is done as a filter-based forward in junos, not much different
> then the firewall component of junos. this is all done on the IP-II.
> 
> so did you actually setup a network of these machines? if that worked,
> they have some sort of emulation layer in the absence of the IP-II.
> I was pretty sure such an emulation layer existed, but to my knowledge
> only in developer builds.
> 
> in any event, juniper isn't going to part with any of that code.

Well I agree, but they are not going to hold on to it forever when 
MPLS comes out in Linux which I am sure will happen, then their advantage will be
lessened on that side, I don't think their only advantage comes from their software
the hardware architecture (ASICS et all) is also clearly a differentiation
point.

Of course one can argue that their software and their algorithms may also be better
implemented than a linux or freebsd solution, but that is not sure.
Right now almost no one has interest in MPLS (except telcos and large operator or ISP)
but I am confident that this will change.

> 
> > Why don't you just try to get your hands on 
> > a JunOS 4.4 and install it over a 4.x FreeBSD 
> > and see by yourself ?
> 
> because if I was going to do that, I'd just install olive.

Olive is used for Training , a plain JunOS 4.4 works just as well
with full features

> 
> and just because you install it over 4.x freebsd and it works, doesn't
> mean its 4.x freebsd based, it means you have a working a.out interpreter.
> 


> -- 
> Bill Fumerola - security yahoo         / Yahoo! inc.
>               - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
> 
> 
> 
> 


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