From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 9 07:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BF51065672; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6103E8FC0C; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh11 with SMTP id 11so2670627vxh.13 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:00:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nuGUODPlO/Ji8n53x/C698sk4iyHO+uz0SlJXAcuH+Y=; b=HlvlFhOcwPNhPmYOa1lL822Tx6vmmTHTi5UJK4VPqK9ZJsFvRUP69MJbn13XnUWADG 5Kn8huI0T+NPKAtW0Rz5wHK5ge1QNMBVPoQEsdQQhWeqkkDRR6t1UMZnVd+aPkiBnJar FG+Q41t2AWVP5CkNQgs+RmkdmLcKPP1FmrAaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.74.74 with SMTP id r10mr6608255vdv.374.1312871460141; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.93.75 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:31:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E3F6216.5080706@FreeBSD.org> References: <201108060916.p769Gr4A043462@svn.freebsd.org> <9DDF0DAB-9056-45CD-8CE9-81B621A35B13@nitro.dk> <4E3F6216.5080706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:31:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Garrett Cooper , "Simon L. B. Nielsen" , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r224674 - head/etc X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:00:55 -0000 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 8/7/2011 6:05 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Simon L. B. Nielsen wro= te: >>> >>> On 6 Aug 2011, at 11:16, Doug Barton wrote: >>> >>>> Author: dougb >>>> Date: Sat Aug =A06 09:16:53 2011 >>>> New Revision: 224674 >>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/224674 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> =A0Rather than edit the nsswitch.conf file based on ${MK_NIS} =3D=3D "= no" >>>> =A0comment out the NIS _compat options by default, but leave them in >>>> =A0the file for the convenience of users who want to enable it. >>>> >>>> =A0Update the comment in the file accordingly. >>> >>> This disables NIS by default which is rather surprising considering the= re has been no prior (which I have been able to find) discussion of this. >>> >>> At the _VERY_ least people need to be warned about this loudly. Unless = you can show this really helps non-NIS users this is IMO a bad idea. >>> >>> Yes, if you hand merge all /etc files this won't be a problem... but I = don't since life's to short for that, so this change just broke login on on= e of the FreeBSD.org during an upgrade. > > mergemaster has been in the tree for almost 12 years now. :) =A0In any > case, I can't think of a situation where blindly copying new files to > /etc is a good idea (with all due respect). No, if people use mergemaster in this mode: -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi= fied. .. then mergemaster will silently turn off NIS for you. If it is considered bad practice to use -U, then people should be directed away from it. I think this is what killed the freebsd.org machine. --=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell