From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 7 18:52:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443DE37B401 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.texas.net (tcnet25-014.austin.texas.net [209.99.97.203]) by mw2.texas.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f981pwF13982; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:51:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200110071855.SAA00595@groggy.anc.acsalaska.net> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:51:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Read To: groggy@iname.com Subject: RE: questions list Cc: def@groggy.anc.acsalaska.net, freebsd-questions Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Oct-2001 groggy@iname.com wrote: > i apologize for asking this question, > as i have asked it a few times over the > years with replies i could not: > > 1) find resolution to (being told my ISP wasn't doing some reverse lookup). > 2) erased by "fetchmail" defaults. pkg_delete fetchmail cd /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail make && make install > (which i have since resovled by replacing "fetchmail" with a ftp script). > not good, if you value your e-mail. There's a lot of locking issues. > FBSD 4.3 > > freebsd-questions bounces mail back: > > a) when you connect with a dynamic PPP account > and use your local sendmail (instead of the ISP MTA). > > b) when you are on a private ethernet behind a "ppp -nat" > connection and use your machines local sendmail > (instead of the gateways MTA). > > and it's very irritating to say the least. > i know it is for SPAM control purposes, > but i think there are better ways > to control spam without punishing > legitimate emails from a) + b) above. > ie - the "blackhole" lists (maybe - dunno - don't use it) > or simple grep scripts looking for identifying keywords > such as FREE! or "to be removed from" or whatever. > > anyway - if there is a simple technique to avoid > mail bouncing without using remote MTAs in > situations a) or b) above, i would like to know. > my guess is freebsd-questions uses the sendmail > option (or whatever MTA) to do reverse name > lookups on the MTA sending the email - which > personally - i think is silly and inappropriate, > considering a) + b) above. > > with brief reliefs here and there, it has been > a continuing problem for a few years for me, > without clear and firm resolution. > Send mail from a properly reversed host ? a. add/change the line in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS b. get an ISP that's willing to do PTR records. this won't help if 'dial-up' blacklists catches on ... > to send this i had to telnet into my ISP > and send the mail from a remote server. > and i do not wish to reconfigure my local > MUA to switch between local and remote > emailing with every email. see above. stubborn little 'cus, ain't you ? Regards, -- Don Read dread@texas.net -- It is necessary for me to learn from others' mistakes. I will not live long enough to make them all by myself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message