From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 11 19:29:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C48E1F2DEE for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47w8zm3kFYz4QJZ for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [100.68.146.170] (183.sub-174-192-149.myvzw.com [174.192.149.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 00BJQtS5025502 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Jan 2020 13:27:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) From: Tim Daneliuk To: , Jerry Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 13:26:46 -0600 Message-ID: <16f9612b4f0.27bc.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <20200111141138.3aa68c51@scorpio> References: <20200108053525.GA50045@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200108124148.20eab510.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200111174004.GB79597@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200111191951.1eae72e7@archlinux> <20200111141138.3aa68c51@scorpio> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.22.0-1511 (build: 102200004) Subject: Re: Basic photo viewing/editing for Xfce? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sat, 11 Jan 2020 13:27:46 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: 00BJQtS5025502 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, timed out) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47w8zm3kFYz4QJZ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:29:08 -0000 GIMP On January 11, 2020 1:13:28 PM Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:19:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions > stated: >> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:40:04 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> Polytropon wrote: >>>> > By your personal experience, what software do you use for photos: >>>> > a convenient viewer/slideshow, and a basic editor (cropping, >>>> > rotating...)? >>>> >>>> In the past I've been using xzgv (here: "xzgv -tzf ", >>>> to be exact), but the versions after 0.8_9 have been >>>> continuously disimproved. That's why today I'd say EOG or >>>> Geeqie; I hope I got the spelling right because it's not >>>> that easy to remember all those strangely spelled made-up >>>> names... >>>> >>>> Both support manual and automatic "slide change" as well >>>> as fullscreen modes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Gimp would be an overkill. >>>> >>>> I'm using Gimp. ;-) >>>> >>>> Have you considered trying Krita? >>>> >>>> There's also Pinta and DigiKam, but I have never used them, >>> >>> Wow! They have so many dependencies, I'd rather use gimp :-) Still, >>> it's too complicated. >>> >> >> If disk space isn't an issue, don't care about the amount of >> dependencies. In my experiences with Linux, _not with FreeBSD_ >> machines_, GIMP way more often tends to be broken, than Krita does. >> OTOH Krita's pitfall are display colour settings. >> Unlikely GIMP or Krita will be to complicated for your propose after >> using them a few times to crop and rotated pictures, but unfortunately >> they are a PITA to use as an image viewer, since it takes way to long >> to load a picture. >> I've got nearly all available Linux viewers installed, non of them is >> to my taste. However, if you want to do simple editing and fast >> viewing, consider to sync with a smart phone or tablet PC ;). >> A problem with at least iPadOS is the HEIC format and while I'm on a >> rolling Linux release (Arch Linux), I still needed to build... >> >> $ sudo pacman -Syu >> [snip] >> warning: ifuse: local (1.1.3.r6.ge75d32c-1) is newer than community >> (1.1.3-6) >> [snip] >> >> ..ifuse myself. Not necessarily needed to sync pictures, but other sync >> options come with pitfalls, too. Using it is a PITA, but fortunately >> iPadOS allows to connect to a shared external drive. I don't know if >> iOS and Android allow this, too. >> >> I do understand that you want to do it with FreeBSD. I would like to do >> it with Linux. Since FreeBSD and Linux software doesn't provide what we >> want to do, this is a workaround. >> >> One machine not necessarily needs to do a good job for everything. My >> dishwasher isn't that good, when using it as a sandwich toaster. > > I have used a lot of different image viewers and editors over the > years. I always find myself coming back to Adobe Photoshop. It is not > free of course; however, there are numerous cost effective leasing > plans available. The only real downside is that it is not compatible > with FreeBSD. The question you have to ask yourself is which is more > important to you, cost or usability? > > -- > Jerry