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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:22:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC 
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Jordan is correct.  Will you folks please give this issue a rest.  It is 
far from relevant to advocacy.

BTW. Jordan, you are much too intelligent or busy to engage in this. Or at 
least you should be.  Although I do know how much you enjoy a good fight.

Regards,
Frank

At 11:57 AM 5/3/2000 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>It may be that only the "heavy hitters" in this thread see it for the
>senseless waste of time that it is, I don't know.  I do know that
>discussing IRC on the freebsd-advocacy list is never going to change
>the behavior of anyone on IRC or make *ANY* substantive difference so
>why keep on beating this dead horse?  It's dead, Jim!
>
>You got your amended FAQ entry but evidently this wasn't enough to
>keep you and Mr. Zaccariello from harping on about it.  You want the
>channel renamed?  Fine, figure out how to force channel renaming on
>IRC.  You want everyone involved on such channels to be kinder,
>gentler, thousand points of light George Bush fans?  Fine, figure out
>how to engineer the IRC people with neurolinguistic programming
>techniques or something - perhaps you could write a set of 'bots which
>spit special mind-altering phrases like "gosh, I feeling helpful" or
>"Get out and vote for George W Bush!" into the channel every 15
>minutes.  Knock yourselves out, but for goddsake stop whining about it
>here in -advocacy and stop trying to widen it into some sort of "Why
>FreeBSD-core hates newbies" polemic.
>
>This isn't about newbies or the project's attitute towards them and it
>never will be for as long as the topic of discussion involves IRC.  If
>you genuinely want to talk about THAT then let's discuss how to make
>the freebsd-questions list a better place or how to improve the web
>pages.  Stop trying to drag everyone here into the EFNET brush wars
>under the pretense of somehow trying to advance the cause of advocacy!
>
>- Jordan
>
>
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