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Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Graham Perrin , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hdaAE045M+v1upcV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com> --hdaAE045M+v1upcV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Perrin wrote in <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com>: > > line 82, >=20 > base is the complete base system. >=20 > , >=20 > > =E2=80=A6 by default select "base", "kernel-dbg"=C2=A0and any libcompat= sets (e.g., > > lib32) if they're available. =E2=80=A6 set-base is supposed to be equivalent to the "base.txz" set, which is the base system excluding src, tests, lib32, kernels and debug symbols. so it's not really "the complete base system", but it is the complete base system in the sense that it includes all the software we ship, just not the ancillary bits. > Are kernel-dbg and the libcompat sets additional to, or included within, > base (the complete base system)? those are separate components and set-base does not install them. i've just created https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52621 which will mean set-base no longer includes the compilers and toolchain. this might be a good time to either rename set-base to something else, or else add a new set with the meaning of "everything except toolchain". if you have any suggestions for the names and/or descriptions of these sets, any input would be appreciate, because it's proving quite difficult to come up with succinct values for that. --hdaAE045M+v1upcV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaM2btgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YEApAP9uKfG18b4FNo/URoieThoh0FaznQzYLuSlgCvQwNO9VAD/eqV6007Xtj0a H3L+jQD1RIelB/XX4cTMz7TiA+tYlA8= =nDXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hdaAE045M+v1upcV--