From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:07:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D791065670; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C18FC18; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp121-45-162-173.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net [121.45.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5SE7f1d029185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:37:41 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Aisaka Taiga Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:37:12 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A4517BE.9040504@FreeBSD.org> <200906282113.42967.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4A475A16.4000108@haruhiism.net> In-Reply-To: <4A475A16.4000108@haruhiism.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1624725.feAl1Pfglu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200906282337.30386.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.336 () AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Alexander Motin , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, scottl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: ATA to CAM integration patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:07:44 -0000 --nextPart1624725.feAl1Pfglu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Aisaka Taiga wrote: > Hello, hope you're having a nice day, > > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > The UFSID is unique for a given newfs (mostly - it is the timestamp > > I believe). > > It is unique; however, I'm not talking about it being unique. More > like from a console standpoint. > Imagine your system's asking for manual input for the root partition; > what's easier to type - /dev/ufs/root, > /dev/ufsid/{inserthugenumberinhexhere} or /dev/physical-device? The latter obviously, however that situation is rare, and you can list=20 the available devices by entering '?'. > Reading through /etc/fstab when it uses ufsids is a pain as well. True, but it is not a very common thing to read through it.. > By the way, in my opinion the current freebsd install system should > allow running GEOM commands before partitioning/labelling devices. > And should also recognize GEOM devices, as well, since for a clean > install the transition to labels & gmirror is either 'not safe' > (kern.geom.debugflags=3D16, then label the live system's drive) OR > requires a dump/restore (label the 2nd drive, label the partitions, > then copy data there, reboot to the 2nd drive, add the first to the > mirror). sysinstall is fun like that, it has many limitations.. You might want to try the bsdinstaller snapshots.. > P.S. Also, bsdlabel and glabel seem like ambiguous names (as well as > using the term 'label' for both slice layout and GEOM labels) - so I > see no problems naming AHCI devices "daX". ;) bsdlabel is a historic, and glabel is a fairly intuitive name.. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1624725.feAl1Pfglu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBKR3ki5ZPcIHs/zowRAldFAJ0R2y4/062hMCe1rrbYUxgDac5AzACdFRjj t5Mb5jcMXuwkR/I1bMna0ag= =etWd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1624725.feAl1Pfglu--