From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 30 14:24:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E4106566B for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84928FC1A for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NF79d-0002rG-6b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:05 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:05 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:22:20 +0100 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <4B13869D.1080907@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <0D3A9408-84A8-4C74-A318-F580B41FC1A6@exscape.org> <20091130084704.2893cc85.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091130140233.GC51377@intserv.int1.b.intern> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) In-Reply-To: <20091130140233.GC51377@intserv.int1.b.intern> Sender: news Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:24:38 -0000 Holger Kipp wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:49:17PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On the other hand, random IO is negatively influenced by readahead :) > > Parallel Random I/O gives better results on Raid 5 than a single sequential > read :-) I also found FreeBSD UFS with Softupdates handling directories with > many small files much better than Linux and ReiserFS (same hardware) - at least > a simple ls returned much quicker on FreeBSD (factor 5 to 10). Yes, until ext4 I was always surprised how bad Linux ext2/3 handled large metadata operations (file deletions and creations). UFS+SU definitely has places where it shines. > With FreeBSD we have a system that works ok out of the box, but for real-world > usage needs some tuning to be optimised for the specific task. Of course. But I think the issue at hand is that there really is more work to do to catch up on average IO performance.