From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 26 22:49:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D78106564A for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-5.MIT.EDU [18.7.68.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C568FC15 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 12074422-b7ff56d00000092f-5b-4e810185da26 Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 41.2B.02351.581018E4; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p8QMnfUT010762; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:49:41 -0400 Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p8QMneSs007757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id p8QMndTE021746; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:49:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4E8100F9.8050509@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <201109260053.SAA25795@lariat.net> <201109260927.02540.jhb@freebsd.org> <201109262035.OAA17199@lariat.net> <4E8100F9.8050509@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrJIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrdvK2OhnsHWOjMXrS99YLea8+cDk wOQx49N8lgDGKC6blNSczLLUIn27BK6MqS/uMRfc46g4s6mVtYHxB1sXIyeHhICJxPNd01gg bDGJC/fWA8W5OIQE9jFK3PtxgwXC2cAoceTfdijnAJPE5s1rmCCcBkaJD58/sYP0swhoS0ye f5YZxGYTUJGY+WYj0CwODhEBZYkrD91AwswC8hL/r1xmArGFBfQljjf8BCvnBGq9/3852Bhe AXuJd5smMkLM/8socfP8c1aQhKiAjsTq/VNYIIoEJU7OfMICMdRS4tyf62wTGAVnIUnNQpJa wMi0ilE2JbdKNzcxM6c4NVm3ODkxLy+1SNdULzezRC81pXQTIyhE2V2UdjD+PKh0iFGAg1GJ h3fmtgY/IdbEsuLK3EOMkhxMSqK8Mxka/YT4kvJTKjMSizPii0pzUosPMUpwMCuJ8Jq+Birn TUmsrEotyodJSXOwKInzcu108BMSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJynBwKEnw3gEZKliUmp5akZaZU4KQ ZuLgBBnOAzScExjTQrzFBYm5xZnpEPlTjIpS4rzPQJoFQBIZpXlwvbAU8opRHOgVYd77IFU8 wPQD1/0KaDAT0OCcmlqQwSWJCCmpBsaq32wz4k95a01q7wkrOpu4d92B/YKq1vEe0+VTvQPD a14cfL3Q31DBZdHntKKacukFzj2iTUbiitZn0xovbfD1llrte6c6jnvJFhavnSlPLHzad/2R zV2+dlfAxL/SjOG3cruOnXt2+smthK/HLFRatY3Emy575W69y7gqMMd2BpdQbUVNlRJLcUai oRZzUXEiAJ1FQFr8AgAA Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiences with FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:49:42 -0000 On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/26/2011 15:38, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >> This perception that ZFS is most of the future probably contributed to >> the lack of strong opinions regarding the default UFS partition scheme. > > Can we please stop saying that there were no contrary opinions stated? I My apologies; my statements refer only to the filesystems working group of the BSDCan devsummit. I seem to recall that you couldn't make it to BSDCan ... > personally expressed a preference (call it strong if that helps) for > split partition scheme, as did several other people, all with worked > examples. Nathan chose to go "one big partition" in spite of that input. > Given that he was the one doing the work on the installer I personally > decided to take a step back and see how it played out. But let's not > pretend that this wasn't Nathan's decision. > > Meanwhile, if based on feedback from early adopters we need to tweak the > layout, that's not life threatening. There is still time. Yes, it was clearly Nathan's decision. And there is still time. -Ben Kaduk