From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Dec 20 13: 9:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from sherline.net (sherline.net [216.203.226.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BB4037B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5492 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 21:09:39 -0000 Received: from server.sherline.net (HELO server) (216.203.226.3) by sherline.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 21:09:39 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c1899a$b4c5b7f0$03e2cbd8@server> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "John Baldwin" Cc: , "Gilbert Gong" , "Anthony Atkielski" References: Subject: Re: Microsoft Advocacy? Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:10:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you think that I'm going to try to work on the > FreeBSD kernel using Visual C++ on a Windows box > because you think that is the best desktop > environment for me to use, then you must be > smoking some serious stuff. You are saying that > the desktop software (X) that can be run on > FreeBSD is not appropriate for ANY use by ANY person. My perspective, as a programmer, is that (a) there's a difference between a desktop and a development machine and (b) you should always try to develop on the platform you're developing for. By that reasoning, no I do not think you should use Visual C++ to develop for FreeBSD, although I have written portable apps in VC++ that compile nicely under FreeBSD as well. I didn't say that X wasn't useful to some people. I said that it is my opinion that it does not make a good desktop, and it's existance doesn't make FreeBSD a desktop OS. If the inclusion of 3rd party desktop software makes an OS considered a "desktop OS", then I suppose we could call HURD a desktop OS as well, along with any bare kernel that can support X. I consider a desktop OS to be a little more than a kernel that can execute X. ___________________________________________ Jeremiah Gowdy IT Manager - Senior Network Administrator Sherline Products Inc 3235 Executive Ridge Vista CA 92083-8527 IT Dept: 760-727-9492 Sales: 1-800-541-0735 International: (760) 727-5857 Fax: (760) 727-7857 ___________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message