From nobody Sun Sep 8 15:14:50 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X1tn45T0lz5V8bR for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2024 15:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com (mail-pj1-x1030.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X1tn35JZJz4DtY for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2024 15:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com header.s=20230601 header.b=v8MdOEIk; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2d8815ef6d2so2604882a91.0 for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2024 08:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1725808502; x=1726413302; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WbBnKCYnz39D/24rM7JnzefQkqCW88tw+k/4e36lxGg=; b=v8MdOEIk5XOvZDY5HcxRrH/EgHYQFkP0zLfQJAaklNwxJuzBY/y3+e1KfRs/gKcSXu cr/xeSZZ/z11wQlPDUcv332Goh/p53Dlu1scYLyrSHjrA1u5RArNmvU9BTRVB4cn7oCc NsnUWiWViMQWyg9Q9oU3tRL37aciSQ6pZi+oYRwkII7iQahtRDuEAL81G2j1BCnMLrht JUTPNpBYk01agqwssxM1eQUzpaM5QB4b+jUj+vWFBiVkRCCSqvGDV2D3f47+Fv+41I4Y 9U44EAa3kQp+c5SnkFxdoLyiWM6vLZdXt/cRgCfy4/18pfwM94pPakZdDcNNFIyo7ZRt Mpyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1725808502; x=1726413302; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WbBnKCYnz39D/24rM7JnzefQkqCW88tw+k/4e36lxGg=; b=wYIRb/zNVPCOqql9wdX/4qJ7ooM5/ZdKx4uM/ZyVjBVpcLvzp0/Qt/ArBthf6GChqS aYR3e/VtEcuF7EY4i4t5vjJO+CLU0QnzXymjtcNkBYgzptAMdtiyhT/bluKSm5TGQGUP YS84fuWpcTxdiSuxJ2NBYQUByw30Ty4AWryrPkgZTMxSFc1j37hZ3qXnY7091SZgibN8 JsFzcseAt+TDGzzwKTc67eXJqbGeVnCZmZSB+XCNjsPXO/Gd4iyu1brLndNL1Nh0ne1n SpvVHkPnYnPKzT3CY68TmjvYy4Z1XzvzvDCyuk4zNJkqdRGrRmpmZWSmr7MKu2sev6i8 doSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzN2Mb+50k4/s42D4abdeYUrYrsnVtT9Oaa0Qw9YWyxcYKLvMsG DQqELnUum163V0/BvJfuoIuHuZ7sPFrPQjyTMBnFfsCGsT9gPS01kCjcvsK7wk39UAatoP+V7nm VWhPW7h+Ie2/nuBhu81ZCpP8XSUdTphfAPkSc6kMEb9nweJwf X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEx0BRMHSk2TkzzetxfQ5AWCGgLJIExNTfataUfFk8PGB6HZEc4MHOS+GstxyGOY9FWS8bARotNcbqLiocO7tg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1a91:b0:2c9:6d07:18f4 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2dafd0bd30amr5068188a91.35.1725808501626; Sun, 08 Sep 2024 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240908122425.720c256cbe4a0c6ae77ded0d@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 09:14:50 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loader needs to be updated message To: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b0b79b06219d1ab1" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X1tn35JZJz4DtY --000000000000b0b79b06219d1ab1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 8, 2024, 7:50=E2=80=AFAM void wrote: > On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 09:34:27PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > >Yes. If you are getting the too old error, then there is a preupdate wor= ld > >booting a stable/13 after my change I think. > > > >Warner > > So, on the server (15.0-CURRENT #0 n270917-5dbf886104b4: Thu Jul 4 ) > > ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 172K Jul 4 17:26 /boot/gptzfsboot > Gptzfsboot is not relevant. Userboot.ko would be since that's what provides the loader interfaces for bhyve. In the VM (13.4-STABLE stable/13-n258323-e7b4f6e0c064 Sep 6) > > ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 151K Sep 6 23:57 /boot/gptzfsboot > > to reiterate:- both these systems are root-on-zfs > > Do you think a source upgrade on the server would fix the issue? > Yes. But the warning at this time isn't super urgent for you. It is telling you of problems in the future. related: do you think i'd have avoided the issue if the guest was ufs only? > No. This is a host vs guest crossthreading that's unavoidable. 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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024, 7:50=E2=80=AFAM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 09:34:27PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote= :
>
>Yes. If you are getting the too old error, then there is a preupdate wo= rld
>booting a stable/13 after my change I think.
>
>Warner

So, on the server (15.0-CURRENT #0 n270917-5dbf886104b4: Thu Jul=C2=A0 4 )<= br>
ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot
-r--r--r--=C2=A0 1 root wheel=C2=A0 172K Jul=C2=A0 4 17:26 /boot/gptzfsboot=

= Gptzfsboot is not relevant. Userboot.ko would be since that's what prov= ides the loader interfaces for bhyve.

In the VM (13.4-STABLE stable/13-n258323-e7b4f6e0c064 Sep 6)

ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot
-r--r--r--=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 =C2=A0151K Sep=C2=A0 6 23:57 /boo= t/gptzfsboot

to reiterate:- both these systems are root-on-zfs

Do you think a source upgrade on the server would fix the issue?

Yes. But th= e warning at this time isn't super urgent for you. It is telling you of= problems in the future.=C2=A0

related: do you think i'd have avoided the issue if the guest was ufs o= nly?

No. This is a host vs guest crossthreading that's unavoidable.=C2= =A0

Warner=C2=A0
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