Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:53:38 -0500 From: Jim Conner <jconner@enterit.com> To: matthew@starbreaker.net Cc: James Buchanan <gnudev@ozemail.com.au>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software on FreeBSD Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011111125248.01fced60@mail.enterit.com> In-Reply-To: <20011111155021.5017723F1A@IMGate1.cshore.com> References: <3BEEA27F.C30FD33F@ozemail.com.au> <3BEEA27F.C30FD33F@ozemail.com.au>
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At 10:33 11.11.2001 -0500, Matthew Graybosch wrote: >On Sunday 11 November 2001 11:08, you wrote: > > > For a little while I've been using Linux only, instead of Windows. > > I've been doing my Bach in computer science degree working on > > Windows, so unfortunately my skills in UNIX are a little rusty. > >Being rusty beats the bloody hell out of being totally ignorant. > > > I was wondering if FreeBSD has an installer program that can > > detect hardware. Also, does FreeBSD come with the tools that Linux > > distributions do, for example: GCC (C, C++, Java, Fortran), glibc, > > libstdc++, libpthreads, autoconf, automake, make, sed, awk, perl, > > bash, texinfo, lout, latex, ghostscript, ghostview, flex, bison, > > and other GNU tools? Is there an easy to use setup program for X? > > What desktops come with FreeBSD, like Gnome or KDE? > >I think the FreeBSD installer does a decent job of detecting >hardware. It's not pretty, like YaST2 in SuSE or HardDrake in >Mandrake, but it gets the job done and it's not that hard to use if >you've grokked the manual. > >Most of the GNU tools are not installed as part of the FreeBSD >"base" distribution, as FreeBSD has its own C/C++ compiler, >libraries, etc. However, the GNU tools and libraries can be >installed from the packages collection. > >If there's an "easy" (does this mean graphical?) config tool for X >under FreeBSD I haven't found it. However, Chapter 5 of the "FreeBSD >Handbook" at >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html >covers basic installation and configuration of X. I followed the >instructions and had only a little difficulty in making XDM work. > >Both GNOME 1.4 and KDE2 can be installed either from packages or >ports, as can Windowmaker, Enlightenment, Sawfish, Blackbox, FVWM, >etc. You'll have to edit ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc depending on >whether you're using XDM or startx. > > > I'm a little worried about changing OSes since UNIX especially > > seems to be pretty hard to use (I mean, for me non-logical names > > for things, like TTYs. An ancient UNIX hang over). > >Well, you have TTYs in Linux as well, IIRC. And, given that they're >pronounced "titties", I figure its just a slightly off-color joke on >the part of K&R > > > Is FreeBSD at least as user-friendly as a good Linux distribution > > like RedHat? Does the manual in the boxed sets tell how to setup a > > modem and make a dialup connection to an ISP, and how to connect > > and disconnect? > >Well, I think FreeBSD is more user-friendly than Linux; it doesn't >put important stuff in wierd places like /opt and such, and the docs >are clearly written. > >The Handbook has a chapter on setting up modems and dialing ISPs, >and there's also a "Pedantic PPP Primer" on the main site. > > > Lastly, since FreeBSD seems to be internet oriented, it has mail > > programs and a browser right? Oh, and emacs? > >Mail clients and browsers galore. We got PINE, ELM, Mutt, Sylpheed, >KMail and Lilith knows what else for mail clients, and for browsers >we've got Lynx, Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror -- hell, we even >have Mosaic. >^..^< > > > Sorry for the very low level questions. But I really can't afford > > to spend the money until I know what I'm doing and I can work on > > FreeBSD. > >Aw come on, you can't afford $50US? You must really be up against >the wall, but that's OK. I've been up against the wall a few times >myself. >^..^< Wow! 50 bucks?! Cheapbytes.com still exists right? Its more like 10 there and most of that is S&H. >-- >Matthew Graybosch >http://www.starbreaker.net >"Sartre was mistaken: Hell is not other people. Hell is debugging >other people's code." > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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