From nobody Thu Oct 14 08:40:22 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8831803801 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=4dPI=PC=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HVNBx6Pvvz4yFF for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=4dPI=PC=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from x1 (77.109.117.16.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.117.16]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A8FB1D4FC1B; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:40:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:40:22 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: <20211014084022.nzstpj4yflzbtwnt@x1> Mail-Followup-To: Andrea Venturoli , questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HVNBx6Pvvz4yFF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:18:45AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >=20 > On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote: >=20 > > I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula >=20 > Thanks, I'll look into it. > From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll look > better. >=20 (I'm the author of the formula) The formula currently doesn't support zfs clones-like and/or send/recv=20 jails (it currently fetches everything). >=20 >=20 > > What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? >=20 > Overhead, mainly. > Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be scar= ce > in older systems). That's true, although a salt-minion process consumes only ~60MB. Unless you have many many jails or older system with less RAM I would say that memory usage is not an issue. > More packages to install/maintain/upgrade. You can handle this with an orchestration script or ... > Etc... >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion >=20 > Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every jail > (which is something I don't normally do). > I'll look into it anyway. >=20 >=20 >=20 > bye & Thanks a lot > Andrea Venturoli >=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEnF27CBNtOraRNmgqCLYqJMpBHmkFAmFn7PIACgkQCLYqJMpB HmnECg/+OjuoZNaFO4mDFkV/HO+AC76Ivzlhj4RO5aHInki33od9qBjVJclUe/R2 8Oedxg4AhO6B+FWwX+GmPMS0FWEPhPR/Qg/IMPJq6IAa6Xr1edFgZl9uaD6qkgKf PwK7dIsK7WlSeQnvcFyk5OorRHbUM236bqtS2JGWs8aQCok7p4y1CYpTndd6z22F d+xpzN7pMObGmsj8nekaubeoKJabbY1Vt5p5N3timBQTmth/nikHE2ks4s8V2wAK TL6baAeo5eaumvaquRTvnJHa3W9l8HZm9d5DNB9VlD575laCU+IxJXGvNQlbxw3s uChU51hAOul243+nQ+rN8DQnUoKBQkRBUla+AignG0CPqvR6TOaHUgzUpvcGN7SD 2MPEsM+6ZrVZwrcYo24js+CAIVgJG1l4uxvfE9sdhvuSfkFg6G/wYyeSq7CN8TrV a4FKR62CAJIFhaGHbYWUycZHt2pZe5M0e5+2o7ZiubA6w7o/9M+Xbd/k1KP8FMri 4UFiKt2W7tTOF/l2I2SCWN/HsWyoUTHS+u+vSTqtgdzxZeBb8PKdnNpG393UWK0o EncRIN0aNCbDkj9WUER+WCIioYkjC66TK3rTfuQZaQzsZHHGIVqQrATERpjCbdfq QKoGX9uhIq6Un1ltXl5DgGH7NDtuwNRwwXnGXs+UrbM906kWEe0= =iAz7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz--