From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 10:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E6916A4BF for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8231943FCB for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05893; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:48:40 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030903114542.03588100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:48:33 -0600 To: Terry Lambert , Bill Moran From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <3F55A19C.73A1614D@mindspring.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030901205127.0337b270@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901203824.0337c920@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901205127.0337b270@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030902180103.0299aaa0@localhost> <3F553FBF.1010208@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 17:48:52 -0000 At 02:09 AM 9/3/2003, Terry Lambert wrote: >Bill Moran wrote: >[ ... Free Code vs. Commercial Interest ... ] > >> Nonsense. There are a number of companies that are making a go at it >> with that model. Look at Adobe with the free Acrobat viewer. How >> about MySQL for goodness sakes? Redhat may not be the richest company >> in the world, but they're riding out a lousy economy. > >Adobe gives away only the viewer. They sell the creation tool, >and they do not give away source code to the viewer. They guard >the file format and third party tools via vigorous enforcement >practices utilizing all tools at their disposal, including the >DMCA. Exactly. And it's necessary to give away the viewer to stimulate sales of the authoring tool. In short, they're not giving away what they're trying to sell. >The MySQL people don't exactly sell software, they sell support. [Snip] >RedHat doesn't sell Linux. They don't even sell documentation and >training (though they'd desperately like to do so). What RedHat >sells is productization. [Snip] Exactly. Which is the goal of the GPL: To prevent programmers from earning a decent living by being programmers. (It's OK with Stallman if they're reduced to the level of plastic disc manufacturers or tech support grunts.) --Brett