From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 15:50:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23C11065687 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CE48FC2B for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 76353 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jul 2008 15:23:36 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 76332, pid: 76344, t: 2.8511s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:44/d:4673 spam: 3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.71.117.70?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@212.71.117.70) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Jul 2008 15:23:33 -0000 Message-ID: <486CEEF1.9040702@ultra-secure.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:23:29 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 SUSE/2.0.0.14-0.1 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lothar Braun References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> <20080702235800.H47773@fledge.watson.org> <486C8700.5020100@lobraun.de> In-Reply-To: <486C8700.5020100@lobraun.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:27:42 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:50:19 -0000 Lothar Braun schrieb: > Robert Watson wrote: >> My primary concern about some of these replacement installer projects >> is that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical -- I >> actually couldn't care less about GUIs (and I think they actually >> hurt my configurations, since I use serial consoles a lot), but what >> I do want is a very tight and efficient install process, which I feel >> sysinstall does badly on (not just for the reasons you specify). > > Hmm, how should a tight and efficient installation process look like > in your opinion? And what are the other points that are bad in > systinstall? > Mass-installation via PXE-booting is a mess (how can you have to pack the install.cfg file into the mfsroot diskimage???). Take a look at kickstart+cobbler from RedHat for a system with some thought behind this process. I don't care the least about GUI or not GUI. I'd like to to able to deploy them as seamlessly as the CentOS/RHEL boxes. Rainer