From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 30 20:59:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00602 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from myoda.konnections.com (mail.konnections.com [207.173.185.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00584; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mallison@konnections.com) Received: from cospo.osis.gov (ip185-254.konnections.com [207.173.185.254]) by myoda.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA09227; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:54:12 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34A9D19B.695A@konnections.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:01:15 -0700 From: Mike Allison Reply-To: mallison@konnections.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Lee Crites (AEI)" CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fbsd & commerce (Re: Informix on FreeBSD (maybe)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does RedHat do? I know they front ApplixWare as well, but they have a fairly interesting support system in place and retail presence. I see a lot of their products in bookstores. They go for strong commercial packaging unlike Walnut Creek. I know where to find Walnut Creek discs, but their usually placed with the shareware and other "non commercial", "non serious" products. -Mike Lee Crites (AEI) wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > > => That's why Linux have better commerse success then FreeBSD. > => > => I think, for supporting commmerce users of FreeBSD, must exists > => firm, which sell commerce version of FreeBSD, which must be identical > => to free version, + some customization and preinstalled software > => and provide aggressive marketing of FreeBSD. > > This brings up a question which I have thought of a time or two. > I had a fairly good level of success giving away some fbsd 2.2.1 > cd's (thanks, Jordan!) to companies around the Austin area. The > success was enough that I thought of retailing the os along with > system support. What would FreeBSD's "official" stand be if I > started charging for the os? Something like: > > The AEI FreeBSD Operating System: > $X,XXX loaded and installed > $X,XXX for 12 months of OS maintenance, including > os upgrades > $X,XXX for System Administration training > > I already did something like this with two clients in this area. > I gave them a copy of the 2.2.1 cd and my consulting company > billed them for setting it up. So far, I only had two people I > spoke with refuse to look into fbsd. Some moved from sco and > some from that "other" free un*x. For the rest (I only gave 16 > total), they were either educational, had NO computer system, or > moved from windoze (these are the ones I am happiest about). The > limiting factor was they had someone who knew something about > un*x already. I haven't really tried a brand new to un*x company > yet. > > But I digress... > > How would the FreeBSD Project feel if they found some rogue > company in Austin was charging for FreeBSD, installing, training, > and support? > > Lee Crites