From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 23 19:42:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764B4B16A2 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ADA371D56 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id i10so84333856iol.13 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D5tbVvM4evaq9nndBUmgPmcKqsk1RKob9tjXIvGI5u0=; b=dFd5ug0TR3KtoPiIXEjdChHPY4n/V7kponFsc+XlT141OhcD3GShsaelyXXKzsmnl0 REiU87KdxkH+zdfLL/Qj+9kaiMDoiAJ1dd5YEYoicA6mn7EZnhd/BPcwO68X3n08BjDF 1TeKTUDZaDfz66VIQHYHvA7vVxgWLMUxH6fAIP4cebBWO/BMD9fbHZAw3zcruJ8ddKgS dp0Ghp9iqJgsA9mKJg0RVgtSKWWcrN7SQzS3e61Q9qWYW7JGUCZLXcut4L0rDp5Eq2Nc 3wpORAJ3qp0hxRKtquxnzq6RSQYqFf5hdeJhiTTBHc7f9FncUYzlm2DFuWh5Qffa/vZt H+vQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D5tbVvM4evaq9nndBUmgPmcKqsk1RKob9tjXIvGI5u0=; b=BqdBX/MWObW63sd9Y5gRww78HnLyE62hEVA6oXuvEHhIwIUZDw+sUmHfTyKvfqm58S 9AQTyef9BgIXCIZ/jd/GVlRNkm5kluO7bkIQwmgTFIrlx30xstqh2mv/ZtCR3u7CN2Vy bgwDXg3D30LCOMK89MDJbi+aBsS+0e2YnvM/SRkgUDqKBB0rRnz+QsnlrC3oLm+4uXzr cokesxgThNy24gjwo5u2uMD1lmHbj/NOkxhASLoYf85h6J/sAHYao63wkCo0AM8vHwbC BaIh7ULBT6k3XggZYvRAk2T2qGZczo4uBkQM6E4UgrcPnYzu2pGJgxCHUDrlg1Cthsd7 GfsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUxmeF0SadlP9HsnfqMD/ZBbXNzPRx9sL2O3KGbrWCr3kGjKvET S/c6YzmJkdyA6pmnA/Lt7TjtNksivv3vrDCRpZP0sS6Q X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxkou25Kt71MO2RiT2jLSHlO2s0sA+s61fewAUfAukjto47fHyOE33/YzjbCVDzeFGxkGAbB5ILCKlS/xnYj/Y= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:ed01:: with SMTP id n1mr71555750iog.255.1563910946667; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> <20190723210543.2d9d8409@archlinux> <20190723212915.1332184f@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190723212915.1332184f@archlinux> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:42:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Gene Heskett X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9ADA371D56 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dFd5ug0T; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.03 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.955,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE(-2.07)[ip: (-4.75), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.10), asn: 15169(-2.43), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:42:28 -0000 On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:29 PM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:05:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:18:48 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >>lips are in sync > > > >When I was a young audio-video engineer in the 80s, lip-sync was a > >_must_. Within the last decade and a little bit before, I've never seen > >anything lip-sync anymore. In my experiences lip-sync doesn't exist > >anymore. > > It's quite funny, if people try to highlight their education by watching > ballet dancers on television by romanticizing the esthetics, while > audio and video are completely out of sync. > I was talking dialog only for example if I am watching the news I don't want to see the anchor's lips moving but no words coming out until a second or two later... In terms of music since I am a classic rock person I can give a rats ass for stuff like lip-syncing (I don't think the late 60's to mid 70's even had any way of doing lip-syncing by technical means) -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org