From owner-freebsd-standards Sun Oct 27 2:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5962A37B40B; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from thuvia.demon.co.uk (thuvia.demon.co.uk [193.237.34.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82943E3B; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (dotar.thuvia.org [10.0.0.4]) by phaidor.thuvia.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RATtcF056095; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:56 GMT (envelope-from mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9RATtH5030244; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:55 GMT (envelope-from mark@dotar.thuvia.org) Received: (from mark@localhost) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9RATtcI030243; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:55 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:55 GMT From: Mark Valentine Message-Id: <200210271029.g9RATtcI030243@dotar.thuvia.org> In-Reply-To: <20021027021319.B799@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Juli Mallett Subject: Re: Why I am opposed to a Standards Ghetto Cc: Garrett Wollman , standards@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Juli Mallett > Date: Sun 27 Oct, 2002 > Subject: Re: Why I am opposed to a Standards Ghetto > > Can you give any examples of something you'd move to /usr/bsd? What > > use would there be for the version left behind? > > The version left behind would be the "conflicts-free" version. As for > something I'd put there... Hmm, ps(1), with the /usr/bsd version > preferring BSD in any conflict, /usr/posix preferring POSIX, and the > base system either implementing neither in the case of a conflict, or > making a value judgement. That doesn't seem to leave a very functional /bin/ps. > I'm talking about "strict" compatability/conformance > vs. "loose" conflict resolution, with the base system preferring the > latter, and the former being available to people who need/want it. I don't see much use for leaving stale BSD utilities around in /usr/bsd, if the default versions are backwards compatible with them. I feel like I'm missing your point... :-( Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." Mark Valentine uses "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* and endorses FreeBSD -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-standards" in the body of the message