From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 11:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1CB16A4CE; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-234.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2149143D60; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5D4066D1F; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:17:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:17:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20031208191702.GA50623@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200312072352.hB7Nqsw6011333@repoman.freebsd.org> <20031208190305.GA956@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031208190305.GA956@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC src/sys/amd64/conf GENERIC src/sys/pc98/conf GENERIC X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:43:29 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 06:03:05AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:52:54PM -0800, Scott Long wrote: > >scottl 2003/12/07 15:52:54 PST > > > > FreeBSD src repository > > > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_5_2) > > sys/i386/conf GENERIC=20 > > sys/alpha/conf GENERIC=20 > > sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC=20 > > sys/amd64/conf GENERIC=20 > > sys/pc98/conf GENERIC=20 > > Log: > > Don't build a kernel.debug for the release. >=20 > Out of interest, why not? The first request for additional > information after a panic report is virtually always to perform a > backtrace against a debug kernel to get line numbers. IMHO, having a > debug kernel supplied with -RELEASE would seem very useful for people > who don't rebuild their kernel. Note that, last time I checked, it > is not at all clear that '-g' does not change the generated code so > you can't guarantee to be able to do a '-g' build after the fact and > generate a traceback. >=20 > I'm not suggesting that kernel.debug has to be part of CD 1, but I > believe it would make a worthwhile addition to (eg) the live > filesystem CD. Yeah, that's a good idea. GNATS is full of PRs with panic strings but no tracebacks, and it can be time-consuming and difficult to get people to obtain them post-facto. If we ship a kernel.debug with the release then we can explain in the release documentation how to use it to submit a useful PR. Kris --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/1M4uWry0BWjoQKURAkIBAJ94U4IGVsN0NAU9YK38lp7Ow5FQCACg5kGC DkRMLV8+tptyWT6VhtphRqk= =eU9R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l--